[gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes
- From: "Steve" <drum67-72@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:57:07 -0400
The problem is that TeleAtlas uses CDP areas identified by the U.S. Census
Bureau for statistical purposes. But, these CDP's often aren't community
designations, they are census designated places. They are defined as CDPs are
communities that lack separate municipal government, but which otherwise
physically resemble
incorporated
places. CDPs are delineated to provide data for settled concentrations of
population that are identifiable by name but are not legally incorporated
communities. Therefore, unless you know how these population concentrations
are referenced in a given area, you have no clue as to how to search for them
under the current conditions using the existing Sendero map nomenclature. The
Search by Zip Code option wouldn't mean that you lose the ability to search by
city/state. It's just that CDP's have nothing to do with the incorporated
city or village and have nothing to do with a city used by the Postal Service
as a mailing address.
Steve
Lansing, Mi
----- Original Message -----
From: "alice dampman" <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:23 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes
The only problem with the zip code solution is that one often does not know
the zip code of a given area or town. I don't even know all the zip codes in
my own city, let alone the surrounding areas. How on earth would I know the
zip code of somewhere near Chicago or somewhere else I might be visiting?
I'd be much more likely to know the name of the area, so my vote goes toward
fixing these nomenclature problems as they come up and are identified and
not requiring the gps user to know a bunch of zip codes.
Alice
alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <drum67-72@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes
> Charles,
>
> I'll wait to see, as they say the proof is in the pudding. Two years ago,
> I
> complained to them by submitting a form and so far the area name for me is
> still unchanged.
>
> In the meantime, one thing that would alleviate this problem is an option
> to
> enter a zip code instead of a city name/State in the address search. I'd
> really like you to take a look at my area of Michigan, where TeleAtlas
> insists
> on subdividing areas into things which either don't exist, or it uses
> several
> subdivision names for townships.
>
> If you do, look at the west side of Lansing, the capitol city. As you
> travel
> outside the city limits, say going west on 3000 W. Saginaw, you come to my
> area which TeleAtlas inanely insists is Edgemont, which is not a
> politically
> recognized village, township, or anything and I suspect the Postal Service
> doesn't even recognize that as a legit name. I live in Lansing Township,
> which surrounds the City of Lansing on three sides; TeleAtlas correctly
> identifies it as Lansing Area on the east side and north side, but not on
> the
> west side. There is a Edgemont subdeivision much like realtors identify
> areas
> of a town that is called Edgemont, but not a city. Then, as you go
> further
> west, you enter Delta Township in Eaton County. TeleAtlas recognizes part
> of
> this township, but another part of it is referred to as Waverly, which
> again
> is undefined as a jurisdiction although the school district which runs
> through
> my area as well as all of Delta Township is the Waverly Community Schools.
> But, there again, there is no village or city of Waverly. All of these
> areas
> lie in the 48917 zip code.
>
> I could site other numerous areas where TeleAtlas comes up with township
> names
> that seasoned drivers have never heard of. Since these are
> non-incorporated
> areas, the zip code would be much easier to search for. I suspect that
> TeleAtlas provides better international mapping, but it certainly falls
> short
> here in the States and is leaving a bitter taste in many of our mouthes
> who
> have to deal with its idiosyncracies and so far a lack of a decent
> work-around.
>
> Steve
> Lansing, Mi
>
> Lat 42.44.58.3140 N 84.35.48.0598 W
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:46 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Nonexistent Address
>
>
> Hi Steve,
> You may jump for joy if we switched from TeleAtlas to NavTeq but
> others would then have worse map accuracy and scream bloody
> murder. No solution is best.
>
> I can tell you this, Sendero will be working closer with TeleAtlas to
> help improve their map quality, and now with the new deal between
> TomTom and TeleAtlas, TeleAtlas will be receiving quality control
> updates from TomTom users who opt-in to TomTom's MapShare features
> which helps monitor real-time road conditions and sends back this
> information to Tom-Tom and ultimately TeleAtlas.
>
> To read more about TomTom's mapshare program you can follow this link.
> http://www.clubtomtom.com/general/mapshare-faq/
>
> Thanks
> Charles
>
> At 03:33 PM 7/19/2008, you wrote:
>>Due to vagaries in TeleAtlas's inane map city designator system, one of
>>the
>>unfortunate consequences of the Sendero GPS implementation, in my opinion,
>>your destination address may be in what they consider a different
>>city. Where
>>I am, they list me in a "city" which is not a politically defined
>>jurisdiction
>>and hasn't been for over thirty years.
>>
>>I would jump for joy if they ever converted to NavTech, which the
>>Trekker uses
>>and it doesn't have this problem.
>>
>>The only thing I can suggest is to try to select an address in the real
>>city,
>>virtually navigate to your destination, and hit the letter C to see what
>>TeleAtlas think your city is.
>>
>>Steve
>>Lansing Township, Michigan
>>In TeleAtlas's map, Edgemont Park, Michigan.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Charlene Elder" <1ladychar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:24 PM
>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Nonexistent Address
>>
>>
>>When trying to set an address from my friend's house, I was able to
>>specify
>>the city and number, but when I tried to enter the street name, it found
>>no
>>matching streets. The name is North River View Road. I tried making
>>River
>>View two words, dropping the North designation, but it never found the
>>street.I then picked another address in a close-by city and it found it
>>just fine in virtual mode. Why would this happen?
>>Charlene Elder
>
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