[gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes

  • From: Charles LaPierre <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:13:45 -0700

Hi Steve,
Yes I totally agree with you on this. Zipcode searching (alpha/numeric addresses and partial street name searches) is high on our list of features to implement, its also one of the hardest to implement because it requires a complete rewrite of the address lookup and indexing code. Sendero does not just throw a new feature in, it is well thought out and works as expected, we have a high standard and you our customers expect and deserve this high quality from us. When we do decide to implement this we want to make sure we do this right, we also have not only our own customers now but also customers from Sense Navigation and Mobile Geo, and trust me they too are asking for this as well.

Thanks
Charles

At 04:42 PM 7/19/2008, you wrote:
Charles,

I'll wait to see, as they say the proof is in the pudding.  Two years ago, I
complained to them by submitting a form and so far the area name for me is
still unchanged.

In the meantime, one thing that would alleviate this problem is an option to
enter a zip code instead of a city name/State  in the address search.  I'd
really like you to take a look at my area of Michigan, where TeleAtlas insists
on subdividing areas into things which either don't exist, or it uses several
subdivision names for townships.

If you do, look at the west side of Lansing, the capitol city.  As you travel
outside the city limits, say going west on 3000 W. Saginaw, you come to my
area which TeleAtlas inanely insists is Edgemont, which is not a politically
recognized village, township, or anything and I suspect the Postal Service
doesn't even recognize that as a legit name.  I live in Lansing Township,
which surrounds the City of Lansing on three sides; TeleAtlas correctly
identifies it as Lansing Area on the east side and north side, but not on the
west side. There is a Edgemont subdeivision much like realtors identify areas
of a town that is called Edgemont, but not a city.  Then, as you go further
west, you enter Delta Township in Eaton County.  TeleAtlas recognizes part of
this township, but another part of it is referred to as Waverly, which again
is undefined as a jurisdiction although the school district which runs through
my area as well as all of Delta Township is the Waverly Community Schools.
But, there again, there is no village or city of Waverly.  All of these areas
lie in the 48917 zip code.

I could site other numerous areas where TeleAtlas comes up with township names
that seasoned drivers have never heard of.  Since these are non-incorporated
areas, the zip code would be much easier to search for.  I suspect that
TeleAtlas provides better international mapping, but it certainly falls short
here in the States and is leaving a bitter taste in many of our mouthes who
have to deal with its idiosyncracies and so far a lack of a decent
work-around.

Steve
Lansing, Mi

Lat 42.44.58.3140 N 84.35.48.0598 W

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Nonexistent Address


Hi Steve,
You may jump for joy if we switched from TeleAtlas to NavTeq but
others would then have worse map accuracy and scream bloody
murder.  No solution is best.

I can tell you this, Sendero will be working closer with TeleAtlas to
help improve their map quality, and now with the new deal between
TomTom and TeleAtlas, TeleAtlas will be receiving quality control
updates from TomTom users who opt-in to TomTom's MapShare features
which helps monitor real-time road conditions and sends back this
information to Tom-Tom and ultimately TeleAtlas.

To read more about TomTom's mapshare program you can follow this link.
http://www.clubtomtom.com/general/mapshare-faq/

Thanks
Charles

At 03:33 PM 7/19/2008, you wrote:
>Due to vagaries in TeleAtlas's inane map city designator system, one of the
>unfortunate consequences of the Sendero GPS implementation, in my opinion,
>your destination address may be in what they consider a different
>city.  Where
>I am, they list me in a "city" which is not a politically defined
>jurisdiction
>and hasn't been for over thirty years.
>
>I would jump for joy if they ever converted to NavTech, which the
>Trekker uses
>and it doesn't have this problem.
>
>The only thing I can suggest is to try to select an address in the real city,
>virtually navigate to your destination, and hit the letter C to see what
>TeleAtlas think your city is.
>
>Steve
>Lansing Township, Michigan
>In TeleAtlas's map, Edgemont Park, Michigan.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Charlene Elder" <1ladychar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:24 PM
>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Nonexistent Address
>
>
>When trying to set an address from my friend's house, I was able to specify
>the city and number, but when I tried to enter the street name, it found no
>matching streets.  The name is North River View Road.  I tried making  River
>View two words, dropping the North designation, but it never found the
>street.I then   picked another address in a close-by city  and it found it
>just fine in virtual mode.   Why would this happen?
>Charlene Elder

Charles M. La Pierre
CTO Sendero Group
"The GPS company." Distributors of the mPower, PK, Victor Stream,
Voice Sense, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Miniguide and ID Mate
1-888-757-6810

Lat. 37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W

Charles M. La Pierre
CTO Sendero Group
"The GPS company." Distributors of the mPower, PK, Victor Stream, Voice Sense, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Miniguide and ID Mate
1-888-757-6810

Lat. 37 15' 25" N  Lon: 121 53' 04" W



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