[gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes

  • From: "alice dampman" <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:23:33 -0400

The only problem with the zip code solution is that one often does not know the zip code of a given area or town. I don't even know all the zip codes in my own city, let alone the surrounding areas. How on earth would I know the zip code of somewhere near Chicago or somewhere else I might be visiting? I'd be much more likely to know the name of the area, so my vote goes toward fixing these nomenclature problems as they come up and are identified and not requiring the gps user to know a bunch of zip codes.

Alice
alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <drum67-72@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes


Charles,

I'll wait to see, as they say the proof is in the pudding. Two years ago, I
complained to them by submitting a form and so far the area name for me is
still unchanged.

In the meantime, one thing that would alleviate this problem is an option to
enter a zip code instead of a city name/State  in the address search.  I'd
really like you to take a look at my area of Michigan, where TeleAtlas insists on subdividing areas into things which either don't exist, or it uses several
subdivision names for townships.

If you do, look at the west side of Lansing, the capitol city. As you travel
outside the city limits, say going west on 3000 W. Saginaw, you come to my
area which TeleAtlas inanely insists is Edgemont, which is not a politically
recognized village, township, or anything and I suspect the Postal Service
doesn't even recognize that as a legit name.  I live in Lansing Township,
which surrounds the City of Lansing on three sides; TeleAtlas correctly
identifies it as Lansing Area on the east side and north side, but not on the west side. There is a Edgemont subdeivision much like realtors identify areas of a town that is called Edgemont, but not a city. Then, as you go further west, you enter Delta Township in Eaton County. TeleAtlas recognizes part of this township, but another part of it is referred to as Waverly, which again is undefined as a jurisdiction although the school district which runs through
my area as well as all of Delta Township is the Waverly Community Schools.
But, there again, there is no village or city of Waverly. All of these areas
lie in the 48917 zip code.

I could site other numerous areas where TeleAtlas comes up with township names that seasoned drivers have never heard of. Since these are non-incorporated
areas, the zip code would be much easier to search for.  I suspect that
TeleAtlas provides better international mapping, but it certainly falls short here in the States and is leaving a bitter taste in many of our mouthes who
have to deal with its idiosyncracies and so far a lack of a decent
work-around.

Steve
Lansing, Mi

Lat 42.44.58.3140 N 84.35.48.0598 W

----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Nonexistent Address


Hi Steve,
You may jump for joy if we switched from TeleAtlas to NavTeq but
others would then have worse map accuracy and scream bloody
murder.  No solution is best.

I can tell you this, Sendero will be working closer with TeleAtlas to
help improve their map quality, and now with the new deal between
TomTom and TeleAtlas, TeleAtlas will be receiving quality control
updates from TomTom users who opt-in to TomTom's MapShare features
which helps monitor real-time road conditions and sends back this
information to Tom-Tom and ultimately TeleAtlas.

To read more about TomTom's mapshare program you can follow this link.
http://www.clubtomtom.com/general/mapshare-faq/

Thanks
Charles

At 03:33 PM 7/19/2008, you wrote:
Due to vagaries in TeleAtlas's inane map city designator system, one of the
unfortunate consequences of the Sendero GPS implementation, in my opinion,
your destination address may be in what they consider a different
city.  Where
I am, they list me in a "city" which is not a politically defined
jurisdiction
and hasn't been for over thirty years.

I would jump for joy if they ever converted to NavTech, which the
Trekker uses
and it doesn't have this problem.

The only thing I can suggest is to try to select an address in the real city,
virtually navigate to your destination, and hit the letter C to see what
TeleAtlas think your city is.

Steve
Lansing Township, Michigan
In TeleAtlas's map, Edgemont Park, Michigan.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlene Elder" <1ladychar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Nonexistent Address


When trying to set an address from my friend's house, I was able to specify the city and number, but when I tried to enter the street name, it found no matching streets. The name is North River View Road. I tried making River
View two words, dropping the North designation, but it never found the
street.I then   picked another address in a close-by city  and it found it
just fine in virtual mode.   Why would this happen?
Charlene Elder

Charles M. La Pierre
CTO Sendero Group
"The GPS company." Distributors of the mPower, PK, Victor Stream,
Voice Sense, KNFB Mobile Reader, Talks, Miniguide and ID Mate
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