[gmpi] Re: ramps vs audio-rate controls
- From: Tim Hockin <thockin@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:56:09 -0800
On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 09:17:15AM -0700, Mike Berry wrote:
> >No, "audio rate controls" effectively means you use audio streams
> >instead of function call or event driven controls. Everything's
> >driven by buffers of audio rate data. Controls are just a lot more
> >similar to audio ports.
> I think audio rate controls would be very problematic. In my
> experience, most controls most of the time are not changing. How often
> do you use a filter sweep as opposed to a fixed frequency? So an audio
> rate control would be carrying huge amounts of redundant data. If you
> then offer an optimization for unchanging controls, you are basically
> back to the events model.
> Also, there is nothing in the events model which says that you can't
> send events at audio rate.
Sending events at audio rate is severely wasteful. What if we made a third
type of event:
point-value: at the timestamp jump to this value
ramped: at the timestamp ramp to this value over this duration
audio-rate: at the timestamp use this buffer of audio-rate values over
this duration
Audio-rate events give you the power of audio-rate controls, without having
to keep the audio-rate input populated wastefully. They also give you the
power to do complex ramp shapes with no plugin support.
In fact, all we REALLY need is variable-length audio-rate events to do
ramping and point values (though wasteful). Maybe all we REALLY need is
point value and audio-rate events. Ramps are just calculated audio-rate
events. Plugins may decimate the audio-rate inputs, if they need to. It
solves the "What happens to a ramp at the end of the buffer?" issue. It
solves the "What if I want a spline ramp?" issue. It solves the "I need to
send a lot of events really quickly, but that wastes CPU and memory on many
events." issue.
We're supposed to be forward thinking, right?
Thoughts?
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