[geocentrism] Re: Tides

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:30:28 +1000

Though I have never ventured into the discussion on the tides, it being a 
mystery, outside my comprehension, I've decided to look at it. Some have 
claimed the moon does not cause the tides. Well this raises more questions.. If 
the moons gravity is not the cause, then certainly something related to the 
moon and its position above, is the cause. I'm going to  think on that. 

Also we have the anomaly of the pendulum under the lunar eclipse which NASA 
though claiming attention to it seem to be avoiding it, or have no answer.  

Further, in my own writings re gravity/inertia, to Allen, I find seeming 
contradictions about this whole business. Is it just a matter of scale and 
distribution.. I read others mathmatical analysis, and I acknowledge that I am 
not gifted in maths, and cannot comment specifically, but I have experienced 
enough to know that a mathmatical analysis is only as true as the data 
inputted.. Leave something out and it is in error.  And that is always on the 
cards.  A physicist who understands nature, should be able to explain movements 
without resort to complex formulae. 

At this moment I am having doubts. If I was correct about gravity in the 
effects on free fall, affecting every particle equally in the space vehicle, 
then how can the water be pulled up separately and further than the rest of the 
Mass earth? Shouldn't the whole thing stay together and dance a wobble with the 
moon? Just a bigger spacedhip. 

Was it Regner, who said that the solid world is spinning under the tides? 
Someone did. I thought it at one time. This cannot be true, and I mean true in 
the conventional system

The tide is like a wave form. Water flows to both sides of the crest of this 
wave. The ocean as a whole like the atmosphere must rotate with a general speed 
similar to the solid earth. Imagine the turbulence if this was not so. 

In geocentricism:
Just a small final word , as regards geocentrism, and how far we can take the 
Biblical claim to the earth shall not move. If the earth is absolutely still, 
then the moons variations of the elliptic, must not cause any secondary 
orbital/translationary movement to the earth.  What that does to the 
barycentre, the math man can tell us. 
But I feel, intuitively that if the earth was FIXED the moon would have to 
eventually form a true circular orbit. Wouldn't it.

This is where the aether , the universe , and independent motions, (of the 
moon.) make a complex problem as regards dynamics. (from our viewpoint)

One motion of the moon around the world almost daily, is not an individual 
movement, but rather a locked in with the "aether sphere" rotation, and 
therefore, not like a normal real independent movement as with similar orbiting 
moons around other solar system planets. In addition the moon has its own 
independent motion against this universal movement. What we see is the 
resultant. But what we feel inertially is the standard 28 day orbit. Just as 
what we feel inertially with respect to the earth, is a 24 hour rotation. The 
two systems are dynamically equivalent as regards inerial properties. 

But the tide follows the moon, which means that the universal rotation of the 
stars, aether, and slipping moon, all contribute in some way to the tides. 

I have much to retreat into my shell to think about..  

comments welcome..  Guiding lights.  

Philip






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