[geocentrism] Re: Evolution
- From: "Jack Lewis" <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:48:52 +0100
Dear Paul,
I would just like to put your statement, below, into its proper context.
'the overwhelming majority of scientists who disagree with the ID position.'
The scientists you are referring to, first and foremost as a priori, do not
believe in a creator, that's their starting position. Their position is not
dictated by science but by their own atheistic, materialistic and humanist
world view. This world view colours the way in which they view the evidence.
Likewise a creationists does believe in a creator and this colours his view of
the same evidence. Neither have formed their world view from the evidence but
in spite of the evidence. I'm sure its pretty safe for me to say that the
majority of creationists were believers in a creator before they rejected
evolution. In my particular case, like everyone else, I was taught that we all
evolved and in this I was quite happy to believe, after all scientists were
honest and objective people of integrity who sought only the truth. When I was
53 I became a Christian but still believed in evolution. It was only a little
later that I came across creationism and was shown many of the insurmountable
problems of evolution. Chemical evolution, the DNA code and the information
stored in it, radiometric dating, macroevolution, irreducible complexity, the
obvious design etc. all gave me serious cause to rethink what I had been
taught. When I realised that evolution was shot through with holes, I became
quite angry that I had held scientists in such a high standing. What made
matters worse was that these evolutionists KNEW all these problems existed but
totally ignored them or ad-hoc'd them out of sight. I know of no evolutionist
who became a creationist simply through scientific argument. In some cases it
may reduce the spiritual barrier that exists but not much more. In all the
cases I have read about they became believers in God first and then reappraise
their view of origins. I know of only one Christian who became an evolutionist,
or perhaps more accurately stopped believing in God, and he wrote a book about
it.
This is the reason why I limit the amount of time I will spend debating
evolutionists. If I can see a spiritual barrier being lowered I would continue
to discuss the subject. However this doesn't happen very often. So there you
have it Paul, it is not possible to argue someone into believing in God using
science, common sense, logic or rational reasoning, it takes a spiritual
awakening first. Here's the paradox for you; if you want to be spiritually
awakened then you must ask God (who you currently don't believe in) to help
you. Ask God, that if he really exists, to stir something within you.
In all sincerity
Jack
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