Dear Philip, Not so. I think you will find that creationist geologists do not argue against anything that secular geologists discover, only their time-scales. The time-scale is measured by the unreliable radiometric method of igneous type rocks and used to date sedimentary rocks that the fossils are found in, by their juxtaposition with each other. They also use the circular reasoning of 'index fossils'. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism list Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:52 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evolution But we do not believe in what the evolutionary geologists cite, except when we want to use it to refute them. Oh what a tangled web we weave, er wave, weive.. hmm.. but a good reply Martin Phil