[duxhelp] Re: Brf files are not currently associated with Duxbury 10.6

Lissa,

On these fronts:

1. Warren has been lobbying for a key improvement to .brf file imports
anyhow.  (Sorry I've ignored that message to date, Warren.)

2. Yes, Joanie is proposing that we set up a file association with .brf
files, but that we allow the user to avoid the association if some other
program is already associated.  So I don't think that the proposal would get
in your way -- except potentially by delaying our ship date.

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Melissa Hirshson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:03 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Brf files are not currently associated with Duxbury
10.6

Throwing in my opinion here ...

I do not favor associating .brf files with DBT, because, even if I were not
an Embossit user, :) I would never open a .brf in DBT, because DBT does not
import them perfectly, and therefore it is useless to us. I can see how
someone might want it to edit short files, once or twice a day, but we never
make any edits in a .brf file in DBT here at NBP. We always open dxb files,
and then save them as brf. In fact, we're working with Duxbury to include
Embossit on some of our CDs specifically because of this problem. Thanks.

Lissa

Peter Sullivan wrote:
> Joanie,
> 
> It's always OK to ask "how substantial" as long as you're willing to 
> accept a (virtual) blank stare, when that is all I can give.
> 
> In this case, I can give an estimate: one day of coding.  That 
> translates
> (potentially) to three days of elapsed time, because only about 1/3 of 
> my time is spent coding, and I'm the only one here who has the MSI 
> programming experience to do this task without a lot of exploring.  It 
> is, I suppose, telling of how tight our deadlines can be that I call 
> four hours of work "substantial".
> 
> The file association upgrade may also have to be scheduled along with 
> a potentially related task, which I have committed to do: to adapt the 
> Shell integration (right-click menu on .dxp and .dxb files) to run in 
> other languages.
> 
> The real kicker is that it would have to be done early enough in the 
> release cycle to give the localizers who have adapted the installer 
> into other languages a chance to localize the new UI.
> 
> All of which makes me ask whether it's really worth it.  You can set 
> the association yourself.  I figure you probably know that -- and know 
> how.  So perhaps you're exploring the issue on behalf of people who 
> don't know about Explorer's "Open With..." command and find it tough 
> to explore new computer-related territories.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:09 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Brf files are not currently associated with 
> Duxbury
> 10.6
> 
> What was nifty about the association is that it made life easier for a 
> couple of classes of Web Braille Users who also use Duxbury: TVIs and 
> consumers.  While there are TVIs and consumers out there with 
> excellent tech skills, my experience is that they do not form the 
> majority.  Before the file association, many would get confused each 
> time they followed a link and got a page full of ASCII braille.  Some 
> would save the resulting page and wind up with HTML at the top.  Sure, 
> you could train them to bring up a context menu on the link or make 
> the file association themselves (which not all of them understood).  
> Then 10.5 came out and everyone seemed so happy that following a Web 
> Braille link gave you a Duxbury (associated) file which you could save.
> 
> So if you don't mind my asking, how substantial?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:23 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Brf files are not currently associated with 
> Duxbury
> 10.6
> 
> Joanie,
> 
> This is true, and deliberate.  I simply forgot to mention it in the 
> beta notes.
> 
> We now have a tool called Embossit -- also, if only informally, in 
> beta.  We prefer to leave it to have the extension.
> 
> Earlier versions of DBT had a setup program that would prompt the user 
> when there appeared to be a conflict, so the user could choose whether 
> to have DBT take over .brf file association.  While still possible, 
> this is substantially more difficult with an MSI installer.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:15 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Brf files are not currently associated with Duxbury 
> 10.6
> 
> I just noticed that 10.6 is not making itself the default application 
> for brf files.
>  
> --joanie
> 
> 
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