[ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
- From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:08:38 -0400
Just give me your phone number, I'll skype out.
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Jean
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
> Jean,
>
> I do have skype, but it's on my studio computer, and I'm not there right
> now. My skype name is obinno1. Do you have aol instant messenger?
>
> Omar Binno
>
> www.omarbinno.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:59 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>
>
> Omar!
> Working with the 02r 96 is a breeze!!!
> No more difficult than using an analog mixer.
> So you're connecting your motif to your mixer and your mixer is connected to
> your Edirol if I understand?
> Then you're using two sets of analog preamps.
> Did you try connecting your motif directly to your FA 66 and if so, did you
> find any difference?
> The MOTU 2408 interface is completely accessible with Jaws.
> Do you have a Skype account, if so give me your skype name and I'll give you
> a ring.
> Jean
>
> Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:39 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>
>
>> Hi Jean,
>>
>> lol First, hats off to you for using the yamaha o2r? I know it's an
>> all-digital mixer, and I personally would never have the patience to work
>> with that type of a unit. Second, I have the keyboard running into the
>> mixer, and not the soundcard. Finally, is the Motu 2408's interface
>> accessible with jaws?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Omar Binno
>>
>> www.omarbinno.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:26 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>
>>
>> Hey Omar!
>> Sorry, I'm not too familiar with this audio interface!
>> I just had a quick look at it on the web and it sounds OK for the price...
>> I'm using the MOTU 2408 system and I can't find any difference between the
>> recorded sound of my Motif and the keyboard sound.
>> My mixer is a Yamaha 02r using the fiber optic wires to connect to my
>> MOTU
>> interface.
>> And the preamps on the 02r are very good.
>> The MOTU interface is, on the other hand, quite a bit more expensive than
>> the Edirol FA66 !
>> Are you connecting your Motif directly to the FA 66 or is it going thru
>> your
>> mixer?
>> Jean
>>
>> Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:48 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jean,
>>>
>>> I'm using an Edirol FA66
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:45 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>>
>>> Omar!
>>> I think you said that you're using an Allen and Heath mixer?
>>> Don't know which model you have but I once had a GS3 model and it sounded
>>> very good.
>>> What kind of sound card do you have to link the mixer to your computer?
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:30 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well here's the thing with that...When playing it through my monitors,
>>>> the
>>>> Motif sounds great, but once i record that midi track into audio, that's
>>>> when it seems to lose some of it's fatness, and even volume becomes an
>>>> issue. For example, i know the limit is -0.1, and if i compare a soft
>>>> synth's audio track sound at -0.1 to that of the motif, the softsynth is
>>>> louder.
>>>>
>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>
>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:04 PM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
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>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:03 PM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before spending any more cash, how about plugging the synth into a hi
>>>>>> fi
>>>>>> amp
>>>>>> and checking what kind of tone you get? If it's very different, then
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> analysing your recording environment to see where the fault could be.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> sounds the same, then that's the sound the synth actually makes and
>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>> need to learn to tweak the preset to your tastes or, in extremis,
>>>>>> trade
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> synth in for something you like more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, if you try the hi fi experiment, be careful about turning up the
>>>>>> volume
>>>>>> too high, especially if you play bass notes - your hi fi speakers
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> take it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim Burgess
>>>>>> Raised Bar Ltd
>>>>>> Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Omar Binno
>>>>>> Sent: 03 July 2008 18:49
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right. I don't feel the sound is as fat as it should be. Can you tell
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> which motu model is accessible to us?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Are you experiencing some audio issues then or, is it that you
>>>>>> don't think the sound your getting back in Sonar is as fat as it
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:01 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil, Is the Motu a higher end soundcard than the fa66?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Omar wrote: Do you think the problem is the Edirol
>>>>>> FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil replied: I wouldn't say that it's a problem.
>>>>>> Having said that, I would have thought that it's possible that
>>>>>> replacing
>>>>>> your current sound card with something else such as a MOTU may help
>>>>>> although, I kind of question that a bit, as your only using the line
>>>>>> ins
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> that card. I am assuming that your recording at 44.1, 24 bit? Sean,
>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>> anyone. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Omar Binno
>>>>>> <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66
>>>>>> then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Phil Muir
>>>>>> <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:26
>>>>>> AM
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs
>>>>>> hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't have thought so. They
>>>>>> are nice mixers and the sound that you track with, should have a bit
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> warmth to it, as your using an analog mixer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Omar Binno
>>>>>> <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03,
>>>>>> 2008 2:11 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re:
>>>>>> software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an alan and heath mix
>>>>>> wizard 3, which has gotten pretty high reviews. I'm just wondering
>>>>>> though
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you actually lose a bit of quality when converting midi of an external
>>>>>> synth
>>>>>> to audio, as opposed to when just bouncing or freezing a vst synth?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original
>>>>>> Message -----
>>>>>> From: Phil Muir
>>>>>> <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July
>>>>>> 03, 2008 9:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l]
>>>>>> Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Mind you, I
>>>>>> don't know which mixer you have so, can't comment on whether it has
>>>>>> excellent pree-amps or, not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P J Muir
>>>>>> Productions,
>>>>>> Music And Audio
>>>>>> Production
>>>>>> Telephone: US (615)
>>>>>> 713-2021
>>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>> Mobile: UK
>>>>>> +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Omar
>>>>>> Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent:
>>>>>> Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM
>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>> [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil, when
>>>>>> you say pre amps, do you mean external ones besides the actual ones
>>>>>> within
>>>>>> the mixer that I am using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm,
>>>>>> maybe as your keeping all of your software synthes/samples internal to
>>>>>> Sonar. On the other hand, if you had some really hi end pree-amps
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> could use with your hardware then, you would find that your hardware
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> sound fatter and have more detail too!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P J
>>>>>> Muir Productions,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:49 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from an
>>>>>> external synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I
>>>>>> imagining
>>>>>> things here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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