[ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording

Agreed.

Regards, Phil Muir

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording


Hi,

Before spending any more cash, how about plugging the synth into a hi fi amp and checking what kind of tone you get? If it's very different, then start analysing your recording environment to see where the fault could be. If it
sounds the same, then that's the sound the synth actually makes and you'll
need to learn to tweak the preset to your tastes or, in extremis, trade the
synth in for something you like more.

BTW, if you try the hi fi experiment, be careful about turning up the volume too high, especially if you play bass notes - your hi fi speakers might not
take it.

Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: 03 July 2008 18:49
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording

Right. I don't feel the sound is as fat as it should be. Can you tell me
which motu model is accessible to us?

Thanks.

Omar Binno

www.omarbinno.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording

Yes.  Are you experiencing some audio issues then or, is it that you
don't think the sound your getting back in Sonar is as fat as it should
be?

Regards, Phil Muir

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----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording

Phil, Is the Motu a higher end soundcard than the fa66?

Omar Binno

www.omarbinno.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
recording

Omar wrote: Do you think the problem is the Edirol
FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.

Phil replied: I wouldn't say that it's a problem.
Having said that, I would have thought that it's possible that replacing
your current sound card with something else such as a MOTU may help
although, I kind of question that a bit, as your only using the line ins on
that card.  I am assuming that your recording at 44.1, 24 bit?  Sean, Tim,
anyone.  Any thoughts?

Regards, Phil Muir

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----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno
<mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
recording

Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66
then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.

Omar Binno

www.omarbinno.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:26
AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs
hardware recording

I wouldn't have thought so.  They
are nice mixers and the sound that you track with, should have a bit of
warmth to it, as your using an analog mixer.

Regards, Phil Muir

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----- Original Message -----

From: Omar Binno
<mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03,
2008 2:11 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re:
software vs hardware recording

I have an alan and heath mix
wizard 3, which has gotten pretty high reviews. I'm just wondering though if you actually lose a bit of quality when converting midi of an external synth
to audio, as opposed to when just bouncing or freezing a vst synth?

Omar Binno

www.omarbinno.com

----- Original
Message ----- From: Phil Muir
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July
03, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: [ddots-l]
Re: software vs hardware recording

Yes.  Mind you, I
don't know which mixer you have so, can't comment on whether it has
excellent pree-amps or, not.

Regards, Phil Muir

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Production
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713-2021
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-----
Original Message ----- From: Omar
Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent:
Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM
Subject:
[ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording

Phil, when
you say pre amps, do you mean external ones besides the actual ones within
the mixer that I am using?

Thanks.

Omar Binno


www.omarbinno.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM

Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording

Hmm,
maybe as your keeping all of your software synthes/samples internal to
Sonar. On the other hand, if you had some really hi end pree-amps that you
could use with your hardware then, you would find that your hardware would
sound fatter and have more detail too!


Regards, Phil Muir

P J
Muir Productions,

Music And Audio Production

Telephone: US (615) 713-2021

UK+44-1747-821-794

Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246

E-mail:

info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:

www.philmuir.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:49 PM

Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording


Hello,



I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually get
fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from an
external synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I imagining
things here.


Omar Binno



www.omarbinno.com





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