[ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording

Omar!
I think you said that you're using an Allen and Heath mixer?
Don't know which model you have but I once had a GS3 model and it sounded very 
good.
What kind  of sound card do you have to link the mixer to your computer?
Jean

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:30 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording


> Well here's the thing with that...When playing it through my monitors, the 
> Motif sounds great, but once i record that midi track into audio, that's 
> when it seems to lose some of it's fatness, and even volume becomes an 
> issue. For example, i know the limit is -0.1, and if i compare a soft 
> synth's audio track sound at -0.1 to that of the motif, the softsynth is 
> louder.
> 
> Omar Binno
> 
> www.omarbinno.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:04 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
> 
> 
>> Agreed.
>>
>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:03 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Before spending any more cash, how about plugging the synth into a hi fi 
>>> amp
>>> and checking what kind of tone you get?  If it's very different, then 
>>> start
>>> analysing your recording environment to see where the fault could be.  If 
>>> it
>>> sounds the same, then that's the sound the synth actually makes and 
>>> you'll
>>> need to learn to tweak the preset to your tastes or, in extremis, trade 
>>> the
>>> synth in for something you like more.
>>>
>>> BTW, if you try the hi fi experiment, be careful about turning up the 
>>> volume
>>> too high, especially if you play bass notes - your hi fi speakers might 
>>> not
>>> take it.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Tim Burgess
>>> Raised Bar Ltd
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>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Omar Binno
>>> Sent: 03 July 2008 18:49
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>> Right. I don't feel the sound is as fat as it should be. Can you tell me
>>> which motu model is accessible to us?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:38 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>> Yes.  Are you experiencing some audio issues then or, is it that you
>>> don't think the sound your getting back in Sonar is as fat as it should
>>> be?
>>>
>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:01 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>> Phil, Is the Motu a higher end soundcard than the fa66?
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:37 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
>>> recording
>>>
>>> Omar wrote: Do you think the problem is the Edirol
>>> FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
>>>
>>> Phil replied: I wouldn't say that it's a problem.
>>> Having said that, I would have thought that it's possible that replacing
>>> your current sound card with something else such as a MOTU may help
>>> although, I kind of question that a bit, as your only using the line ins 
>>> on
>>> that card.  I am assuming that your recording at 44.1, 24 bit?  Sean, 
>>> Tim,
>>> anyone.  Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>
>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>> Music And Audio Production
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Omar Binno
>>> <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:30 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
>>> recording
>>>
>>> Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66
>>> then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Phil Muir
>>> <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:26
>>> AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs
>>> hardware recording
>>>
>>> I wouldn't have thought so.  They
>>> are nice mixers and the sound that you track with, should have a bit of
>>> warmth to it, as your using an analog mixer.
>>>
>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>
>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>> Music And Audio Production
>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Omar Binno
>>> <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03,
>>> 2008 2:11 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re:
>>> software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>> I have an alan and heath mix
>>> wizard 3, which has gotten pretty high reviews. I'm just wondering though 
>>> if
>>> you actually lose a bit of quality when converting midi of an external 
>>> synth
>>> to audio, as opposed to when just bouncing or freezing a vst synth?
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original
>>> Message ----- 
>>> From: Phil Muir
>>> <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:
>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, July
>>> 03, 2008 9:04 AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l]
>>> Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>> Yes.  Mind you, I
>>> don't know which mixer you have so, can't comment on whether it has
>>> excellent pree-amps or, not.
>>>
>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>
>>> P J Muir
>>> Productions,
>>> Music And Audio
>>> Production
>>> Telephone: US (615)
>>> 713-2021
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>>>
>>> -----
>>> Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Omar
>>> Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:
>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent:
>>> Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM
>>> Subject:
>>> [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>> Phil, when
>>> you say pre amps, do you mean external ones besides the actual ones 
>>> within
>>> the mixer that I am using?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>
>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:
>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>> Hmm,
>>> maybe as your keeping all of your software synthes/samples internal to
>>> Sonar.  On the other hand, if you had some really hi end pree-amps that 
>>> you
>>> could use with your hardware then, you would find that your hardware 
>>> would
>>> sound fatter and have more detail too!
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>
>>> P J
>>> Muir Productions,
>>>
>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>
>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>
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>>>
>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>
>>> From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:49 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually get
>>> fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from an
>>> external synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I 
>>> imagining
>>> things here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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