[ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
- From: "Jim Jackson" <cs2007@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:19:08 -0400
Again, since
Tim mentioned tweaking, can I tweak the parameters of the TTS and if so, how
and to what extent? Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
Hi,
Before spending any more cash, how about plugging the synth into a hi fi
amp
and checking what kind of tone you get? If it's very different, then
start
analysing your recording environment to see where the fault could be. If
it
sounds the same, then that's the sound the synth actually makes and you'll
need to learn to tweak the preset to your tastes or, in extremis, trade
the
synth in for something you like more.
BTW, if you try the hi fi experiment, be careful about turning up the
volume
too high, especially if you play bass notes - your hi fi speakers might
not
take it.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: 03 July 2008 18:49
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
Right. I don't feel the sound is as fat as it should be. Can you tell me
which motu model is accessible to us?
Thanks.
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
Yes. Are you experiencing some audio issues then or, is it that you
don't think the sound your getting back in Sonar is as fat as it should
be?
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions,
Music And Audio Production
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK+44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
Phil, Is the Motu a higher end soundcard than the fa66?
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
recording
Omar wrote: Do you think the problem is the Edirol
FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
Phil replied: I wouldn't say that it's a problem.
Having said that, I would have thought that it's possible that replacing
your current sound card with something else such as a MOTU may help
although, I kind of question that a bit, as your only using the line ins
on
that card. I am assuming that your recording at 44.1, 24 bit? Sean, Tim,
anyone. Any thoughts?
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions,
Music And Audio Production
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK+44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno
<mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
recording
Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66
then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:26
AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs
hardware recording
I wouldn't have thought so. They
are nice mixers and the sound that you track with, should have a bit of
warmth to it, as your using an analog mixer.
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions,
Music And Audio Production
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK+44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno
<mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03,
2008 2:11 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re:
software vs hardware recording
I have an alan and heath mix
wizard 3, which has gotten pretty high reviews. I'm just wondering though
if
you actually lose a bit of quality when converting midi of an external
synth
to audio, as opposed to when just bouncing or freezing a vst synth?
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
----- Original
Message -----
From: Phil Muir
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July
03, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: [ddots-l]
Re: software vs hardware recording
Yes. Mind you, I
don't know which mixer you have so, can't comment on whether it has
excellent pree-amps or, not.
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir
Productions,
Music And Audio
Production
Telephone: US (615)
713-2021
UK+44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK
+44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
-----
Original Message -----
From: Omar
Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent:
Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM
Subject:
[ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
Phil, when
you say pre amps, do you mean external ones besides the actual ones within
the mixer that I am using?
Thanks.
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
Hmm,
maybe as your keeping all of your software synthes/samples internal to
Sonar. On the other hand, if you had some really hi end pree-amps that
you
could use with your hardware then, you would find that your hardware would
sound fatter and have more detail too!
Regards, Phil Muir
P J
Muir Productions,
Music And Audio Production
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK+44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording
Hello,
I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually get
fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from an
external synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I
imagining
things here.
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
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Hi,Before spending any more cash, how about plugging the synth into a hi fi amp and checking what kind of tone you get? If it's very different, then start analysing your recording environment to see where the fault could be. If it
sounds the same, then that's the sound the synth actually makes and you'llneed to learn to tweak the preset to your tastes or, in extremis, trade the
synth in for something you like more.BTW, if you try the hi fi experiment, be careful about turning up the volume too high, especially if you play bass notes - your hi fi speakers might not
take it. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message-----From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: 03 July 2008 18:49 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Right. I don't feel the sound is as fat as it should be. Can you tell me which motu model is accessible to us? Thanks. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Yes. Are you experiencing some audio issues then or, is it that you don't think the sound your getting back in Sonar is as fat as it should be? Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:01 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Phil, Is the Motu a higher end soundcard than the fa66? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Omar wrote: Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using. Phil replied: I wouldn't say that it's a problem. Having said that, I would have thought that it's possible that replacing your current sound card with something else such as a MOTU may helpalthough, I kind of question that a bit, as your only using the line ins on
that card. I am assuming that your recording at 44.1, 24 bit? Sean, Tim, anyone. Any thoughts? Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno
<mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:30 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording I wouldn't have thought so. They are nice mixers and the sound that you track with, should have a bit of warmth to it, as your using an analog mixer. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording I have an alan and heath mixwizard 3, which has gotten pretty high reviews. I'm just wondering though if you actually lose a bit of quality when converting midi of an external synth
to audio, as opposed to when just bouncing or freezing a vst synth? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com ----- OriginalMessage ----- From: Phil Muir
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Yes. Mind you, I don't know which mixer you have so, can't comment on whether it has excellent pree-amps or, not. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ -----Original Message ----- From: Omar
Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Phil, when you say pre amps, do you mean external ones besides the actual ones within the mixer that I am using? Thanks. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Hmm, maybe as your keeping all of your software synthes/samples internal toSonar. On the other hand, if you had some really hi end pree-amps that you
could use with your hardware then, you would find that your hardware would sound fatter and have more detail too! Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording Hello, I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually get fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from anexternal synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I imagining
things here. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq
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