[ddots-l] Re: Sonar
- From: "James Malone" <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:36:23 -0800
Oh I agree,
Adaptive technology is quite expensive for us.
The bottom line is, we are a small community with very few resources to
call on. Some of us is willing to work on making programs accessible while
others are driving the cost effectiveness up.
I can understand that in order to meet the demands of the time spent per
hour on a hour to hour basses, the cost of programming to come up with such
a product like CT, and J Sonar can be costly.
So where does the fault lie? It lies within Cakewalk Pro tools, and Roxio.
Lets not forget about Freedom Scientific who runs the business end of
things.
I myself has tried hard to keep up with the flow of traffic on this list and
the midi mag list, and also tried to help and test on the CT beta team, and
can realize the time and work that goes in to testing a product.
I can personally tell you some of the stories I've gotten from Roxio about
the fact is that "there is no demand for us to make our product accessible".
This is the reason why the good people like freedom Scientific can increase
their prices above and beyond what some of us can aford.
There really needs to be a grater demand for programmers like David pinto so
we can at least have a choice on who to buy from.
The Tutorials are grate, but he's the only one doing a tutorial with
Scripts.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of russell Bourgoin
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:34 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar
Hi,
Don't forget the cost of upgrading jaws. I've had three iterations
of caketalking, for sonar 3, 4, and 5, and each time I upgraded, I had to
upgrade jaws too. Its a quite expensive proposition for someone whose
unemployed and uses window-eyes as a main screen reader, reserving jaws only
for music making!
Rusty
>Hi all,
>In my opinion, both J Sonar, and Ct are good. However, if you don't
>have hundreds of dollars to spend, and you want to get up and running
>with Sonar, J Sonar is the way to go.
>Personally, Sonar 6 has been out since last summer, and it seems that
>Cake talking can't keep up with each cycle before a new version of
>Sonar is release.
>I love using Ct, but wonder if my wallet can stand a double bang with
>Ct and Sonar six months after Sonar is released.
>Lets do the math,
>$179 for the upgrade of Sonar producer, when the public version of Cake
>Talking is released in 6 to 8 months for the upgrade is $149, With a
>grand total of Roughly $330.
>This doesn't include tax and shipping. On the other hand, for those who
>like Ct but can't wait can use J Sonar in the meantime.
> James
>
>
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>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Christer
>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:13 AM
>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar
>
>I reckon it's gotta be a user opinion!
>I mean, they both have their pro's and cons!
>
>Being a relative novice to making music with PC's the CT option seemed
>the easier and more obvious choice, especially as they come with a
>thorough set of tutorials/manuals?
>
>And, the guys over at Dancing Dots, are very friendly and helpful, not
>to say the guys who compose J.Sonar aren't, but it just seemed the most
>apparent thing for me to do at the time!
>Not to mention, that I didn't know of the existence of any alternative,
>when I first got introduced to Sonar!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lex Gillette" <trakstar84@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:00 PM
>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar
>
>
> > So in all honesty, which scripts are the best, if I can say "best"...
> > I guess I need to say, which scripts are easier to function and
> > easier to understand, or is it a user opinion?
> >
> >
> >>From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Reply-To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar
> >>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:55:04 -0000
> >>
> >>Hey Lex!
> >>
> >>Although I'm a CT user myself, I would advise you to take a good
> >>look at the free J.Sonar scripts.
> >>Personally, I don't know much about them, but a lot of guys on this
> >>list and the MidiMag list swear by them...
> >>
> >>I reckon it's worth checking them out, they work in a totally
> >>different way to CT, actually preserving the original Sonar hot
> >>keys, besides, you got nothing to lose but a little time?
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>
> >>Mike
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> >>From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:25 PM
> >>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar
> >>
> >>
> >> > Yes. They do. David Pento did a great job with the tutorials.
> >> >
> >> > At 03:45 PM 1/12/2007, Lex Gillette wrote:
> >> >>yes, I do plan on getting the Caketalking scripts; from reading,
> >> >>it
> >>seems
> >> >>as though these scripts are very helpful in working with Sonar.
> >> >>The tutorials that accompany Caketalking explain everything from
> >> >>front to back?
> >> >>
> >> >>>From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>Reply-To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar
> >> >>>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:26:28 -0600
> >> >>>
> >> >>>If you are going to use the Caketalking scripts, you will need
> >> >>>Sonar 5.
> >> >>>The version of Sonar you buy doesn't depend on your knowledge,
> >> >>>so
> >>version
> >> >>>5 would be as good as any. I highly recommend the Caketalking
> >> >>>scripts, as they come with extensive tutorial documentation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>At 03:09 PM 1/12/2007, Lex Gillette wrote:
> >> >>>>Hey Guys
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I'm the beginner of the group unfortunately. I want to
> >> >>>>purchase sonar and I'm relatively new to all of this; I have
> >> >>>>recorded and things a
> >>lot
> >> >>>>and want to purchase sonar so that I can record and produce
> >>arangements
> >> >>>>for myself without 100 percent sighted assistance.
> >> >>>>What version of Sonar would be best for my needs and knowledge
> >> >>>>of recording? It doesn't seem sensible for me to start off
> >> >>>>with Sonar version 6 but if it's recommended then I could look into
it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Thanks for your patience with me Lex
> >> >>>>
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