[bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: Barathrum
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:37:28 -0700 (PDT)
Well, one had to scroll down pretty far in the items
listed on google. I have mine set for 50 on a page. I
rarely go beyond that, to the next page--I figure that
if I can't find what I want on 50 items I'm not likely
to, and I get impatient. Sometimes I re-arrange the
order of the words I put in and will google a second
or third time, but that's it. smile
Cindy
--- Amy Goldring Tajalli
<agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Grandma,
>
> Trust you to come through with obscure info I could
> not find. I googled and got nowhere and, of course,
> subscriptions I have none. The Finnish rock group
> was from Wikipedia so I thank you for the
> definitions that fit what Hugo was writing as he was
> talking about the lowest hole in the sewers in Paris
> @ 1832 (time of uprising in the last section of Les
> Miserable. This is my fourth (?) reading of the
> book and am taking the time to look up some words
> and make annotations but I have a small problem.
>
> I am using an Adobe Reader [PDF] copy of the book
> which allows me to highlight and make all sorts of
> notes and annotations BUT they disappear when I
> close the book and are somewhere but not visible
> when I go back. Once in a while some show up again
> but then are gone and while I have tried various
> formulas I cannot seem to get them to stay. I am
> old fashioned and have habits from my days as a
> fully-sighted text reader with notes all over my
> books and get frustrated when I cannot do the same
> or find them afterwards [afterwords - smile] . Any
> help herewith will be appreciated.
>
> I must admit authors and, even worse, translators
> confound me. The Charles Wilbur translation is one
> of the best I could find without being "edited" or
> "modified" or who-knows-what and without being
> stated but most of the poetry herein is not
> translated, not even the long ballads. Why does he
> think I want a translation if he thinks (does he?) I
> know enough French to read the poetry? Random House
> should know better. I am working on finding the
> poetry in question with the help of a local
> computer-very-literate librarian. In this case it
> is not a problem of no information but of much to
> much information but not quite specific enough. I
> am beginning to realize how absolutely spoiled I was
> when I could just go down to the University Library
> [actually any one of 5 universities and numerous
> libraries in each] to do the research. I thought
> having a computer doing the walking and part of the
> seeing would be easier - more fool me.
>
> Thanks for the help and, as always, for letting me
> vent my frustrations.
>
> Amy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:57 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: Barathrum
>
>
> >I love research questions like this. Bring them
> > on--grin
> >
> > Unfortunately the Oxford English Dictionary online
> is
> > bysubscription only, and my Skeats etymological
> > dictionary doesn't have the word, BUT!!
> >
> > google is wonderful. Googling found these two
> > definitions:
> >
> >
> > From the 2004 Scripps National Spelling Bee
> > Consolidated Word List:
> >
> > barathrum�?"noun�?"From Greek to Latin�?"a
> bottomless
> > pit or abyss: a place or state of misery or
> torment.
> > "The motivational speaker said that her early life
> was
> > a barathrum which she was fortunate to have
> survived.
> >
> > From about.com:
> >
> > obscure words: barathrum
> >
> > [L., from Gk., a pit, gulf] a) a deep pit at
> Athens,
> > into which condemned criminals were thrown
> > b) the abyss, hell c) an insatiable extortioner or
> > glutton
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- Amy Goldring Tajalli
> > <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Assistance needed:
> >>
> >> Barathrum is a word used by Hugo in Les
> Miserables
> >> in reference to the bottom of one of or the
> worst
> >> sewer. in Paris. I cannot find it in any of my
> >> available dictionaries but only as the name of a
> >> Finish Heavy Metal Rock band and it is possible,
> but
> >> I was not sure, carrying the Finish meaning of
> "dark
> >> metal". Since it is only one word out of 1280
> pages
> >> I should not let it bother me but it does.
> >>
> >> Any more information of a more probable
> definition
> >> in a book written by a Frenchman in 1875 in the
> >> Channel Isles would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Amy
> >> omsm in Miami
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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