[blindreplay] Re: Attention Window-Eyes 6.1: Feedback needed
- From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 10:28:04 -0700 (PDT)
Rick
Thank you. W-Eyes users open your email program and contact
support@xxxxxxxxxxx
It's up to you now.
--- Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Petro,
>
> I agree with you 100%. The menu problem in my opinion, should
> not be
> considered simply a cosmetic thing. This may be the case for
> experienced
> users that know how to get around it, but for a new user,
> especially one
> that is used to accessing the top level menu via the alt key,
> this is a
> major thing and totally confusing. As to whether it is an
> Applian issue or
> a WindowEyes issue remains to be seen, but it should
> definitely be addressed
> and fixed. I know and understand that GW Micro is a small
> company and may
> have limited resources, but they have been known to address
> issues like this
> in the past, and if the issue is brought to their attention by
> enough users,
> they will do what it takes to fix it if the problem is on
> their end. If they
> don't hear from users that feel this issue is a problem for
> them however, it
> won't be very high on their priority list. Reporting the
> issue on their
> mailing list is ok, but emailing support@xxxxxxxxxxx directly
> with your
> issue is better.
>
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
> rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Petro
> T.
> Giannakopoulos
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:12 AM
> To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Attention Window-Eyes 6.1: Feedback
> needed
>
> Hi Mike
> I already told Applian to make the Header that is above the
> listbox more accessible the last time you brought this up.
> This
> is definitely a minor issue.
>
> The menu bar is a big issue. If you press your alt key with
> Window-Eyes and then right arrow one time you land on the
> shows
> menu and if you down arrow in the shows menu you hear the
> options for the shows menu. You hear settings and exit which
> are
> wrong. The settings and exit belong in the file menu area.
> This
> happens for all if not mot most menus using Window-Eyes.
>
> The current fix is to use:
> alt f for the file menu and you hear settings, exit.
> alt s for the shows menu and the correct items within the
> shows
> menu and so on.
>
> But the above fix has another issue and not good.
>
> Within each menu some items are spoken twice when arrowing
> down
> and each has its different accelerator key to do the same
> function.
>
> So if somebody says go to 123 Main Street and they tell you go
> 1
> street to the right and you do those directions but you end up
> on 234 Hill Street instead.
>
> If I tell you to go to the tools menu with window-Eyes and
> down
> arrow to find the URL Finder and you are a new user you will
> not
> find the URL Finder because it is not there. It's one menu
> over
> to the right and in the wrong menu.
>
> I know you understand all this and letting the others know
> what
> we are talking about.
>
> --- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Petro
> >
> > I have one problem area. I have figured out, using the WE
> > mouse keys, how
> > to sort my RAV listings alphabetically.
> > There are, however, 2 other sorts which, for the life of me,
> I
> > cannot
> > trigger.
> > The solution, as I see it, would be to create hotkeys for
> > these 3 choices
> > or, alternatively, a combo box toggle perhaps in the
> settings
> > menu.
> > Admittedly, this is such a minor thing that it would hardly
> > warrant much
> > effort so I wouldn't want Applian to do the addition if it
> > required much
> > in manhour time.
> > With their limited resources, and the number of programs
> under
> > continual
> > development, the resources of manhours, dollars, and time
> > ought to be put
> > to its best use.
> > The fact, from a blind-user perspective, RAV walks rings
> > arount
> > RadioTime's Redbutton which I also use.
> > The reason is that Applian has chosen to follow the
> > conventional Windows
> > menu structure whereas RadioTime has taken the gui mouse
> > route.
> >
> >
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