[blindreplay] Re: Attention Window-Eyes 6.1: Feedback needed

  • From: "Rick Alfaro" <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:08:05 -0400

Petro,

I agree with you 100%.  The menu problem in my opinion, should not be
considered simply a cosmetic thing.  This may be the case for experienced
users that know how to get around it, but for a new user, especially one
that is used to accessing the top level menu via the alt key, this is a
major thing and totally confusing.  As to whether it is an Applian issue or
a WindowEyes issue remains to be seen, but it should definitely be addressed
and fixed.  I know and understand that GW Micro is a small company and may
have limited resources, but they have been known to address issues like this
in the past, and if the issue is brought to their attention by enough users,
they will do what it takes to fix it if the problem is on their end. If they
don't hear from users that feel this issue is a problem for them however, it
won't be very high on their priority list.  Reporting the issue on their
mailing list is ok, but emailing support@xxxxxxxxxxx directly with your
issue is better.


Warmest regards,
 
Rick Alfaro
rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Petro T.
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:12 AM
To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Attention Window-Eyes 6.1: Feedback needed

Hi Mike
I already told Applian to make the Header that is above the
listbox more accessible the last time you brought this up. This
is definitely a minor issue.

The menu bar is a big issue. If you press your alt key with
Window-Eyes and then right arrow one time you land on the shows
menu and if you down arrow in the shows menu you hear the
options for the shows menu. You hear settings and exit which are
wrong. The settings and exit belong in the file menu area. This
happens for all if not mot most menus using Window-Eyes.

The current fix is to use:
alt f for the file menu and you hear settings, exit.
alt s for the shows menu and the correct items within the shows
menu and so on.

But the above fix has another issue and not good.

Within each menu some items are spoken twice when arrowing down
and each has its different accelerator key to do the same
function.

So if somebody says go to 123 Main Street and they tell you go 1
street to the right and you do those directions but you end up
on 234 Hill Street instead.

If I tell you to go to the tools menu with window-Eyes and down
arrow to find the URL Finder and you are a new user you will not
find the URL Finder because it is not there. It's one menu over
to the right  and in the wrong menu.

I know you understand all this and letting the others know what
we are talking about.   

--- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Petro
> 
> I have one problem area.  I have figured out, using the WE
> mouse keys, how 
> to sort my RAV listings alphabetically.
> There are, however, 2 other sorts which, for the life of me, I
> cannot 
> trigger.
> The solution, as I see it, would be to create hotkeys for
> these 3 choices 
> or, alternatively, a combo box toggle perhaps in the settings
> menu.
> Admittedly, this is such a minor thing that it would hardly
> warrant much 
> effort so I wouldn't want Applian to do the addition if it
> required much 
> in manhour time.
> With their limited resources, and the number of programs under
> continual 
> development, the resources of manhours, dollars, and time
> ought to be put 
> to its best use.
> The fact, from a blind-user perspective, RAV walks rings
> arount 
> RadioTime's Redbutton which I also use.
> The reason is that Applian has chosen to follow the
> conventional Windows 
> menu structure whereas RadioTime has taken the gui mouse
> route.
> 
> 
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