[bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
- From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:15:13 -0500
Any validator can replace a book. When I validate replacement books I am very
careful with checking whether it is a truly improved copy. I don't take the
submitter's word that it is. I check for myself. I had a couple of instants
that books were submitted as improved copies, but when I checked with K1000,
they were significantly worse copies. So I rejected them. Others have been
somewhat similar but I cleaned them up some, so they were better. And still
others were the same and so I rejected them.
Tiffany, as Julie said you can always resubmit your books or email bookshare
about it. Because we should be improving the collection., not down grading it.
Grace
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Petraccaro
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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:48 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
Who's responsible for judging the quality of a replacement. I've sent a few
replacements, but they were usually for books that I was asked to do or of
books I'd originally done and could now improve.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tiffany H. Jessen
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:13 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
Yes, I get the letter of acceptance, then some time later, (sometimes even
months later), I get a notice that my copy has been replaced by a superior
quality. And yes, I use Kurzweil to rank the quality. It's not always a big
difference, but in all of the cases so far they have been decreases in
quality. After looking over the books more closely I suppose they could
still be considered excellent shape, but they're more borderline where as
mine were nearly perfect. Oh well...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:15 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
> Tiffany:
>
> Do you actually receive an email telling you that your book has been
> replaced?
> That can be very frustrating especially if you feel that the book has
been
> down graded, not improved.
>
> K1000 is an excellent tool for comparing book quality. When you look at
> the list of mispelling you get to see what type of errors it has.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:18 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>
>
>> Oh no, I don't worry about a validater ranking my book as good if I
think
>> it is excellent. My concern is when I have a book approved in excellent,
>> and then X amount of time later someone else scans that same book and
has
>> it approved as an excellent quality, when in fact it is lower than what
I
>> did. I wouldn't mind my book being replaced if it were in fact a
superior
>> quality, the objection is when it goes the other way around.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:58 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>>
>>
>>> Tiff and Shelley
>>>
>>> Perhaps it is age, I'm in my mid 50s, but I don't leg my ego
>>> into the process worry8ing whether someone labels my excellent scan as
>>> good, et al. At first, I thought it meant something; but as a validator
>>> myself, I realize that it's generally an arbitrary decision made by
>>> another human being, and nothing more.
>>> So if validator takes my excellent submission and believes it only to be
>>> good, what does it matter in the grand schemes of things?
>>>
>>> As for Lissi's questions, Julie pretty much conveys my feelings.
>>> And if a book sits too long on Step 1, as Cindy notes, I always have the
>>> option of self-validating which I did on a couple of Christmas books so
>>> that they would make it into the collection for the Christmas reading
>>> season.
>>>
>>> As a validator myself, I get to know the work styles of submitters and
>>> tend to validate those who do the work upfront so to speak.
>>> So I quickly know what will need to be done, if anything, based on my
>>> experience with their work as well as comments they supply.
>>> I attempt for quick turn arounds and attempt to avoid knitpicking as,
>>> with
>>> over 600 books on Step 1, time is best spent on titles that frankly
>>> don't
>>> need much handholding.
>>> I would only spend that time on Step 1 books that I believed were
>>> special
>>> to the collection amd might not be replacible.
>>> Spending hours upon hours validating something, in most instances, makes
>>> little sense as rescanning it would be faster.
>>> Keep in mind that 5 times the credits are given for submissions vs
>>> validations which indicates where the effort ought to be placed in a
>>> priority scheme.
>>>
>>> Just some rambling thoughts which I doubt hold much significance. To
>>> sum
>>> up, a topnotch submission requires little from the validator beyond spot
>>> checking and verification. And once one learns the work habits and
>>> tendecies of those they validate, the process becomes even more
>>> streamlined.
>>>
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