[bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses wasRe: proofing manual

  • From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:12:46 -0400

It is as simple as this. The ellipsis is the last word in the sentence. That means that it is followed by a period without a space like any last word in a sentence. In print that will appear the same as four periods. Since the Braille symbol for a period is different than the symbol for an ellipsis it will appear in Braille as an ellipsis and a period, still with no spaces.

On 8/15/2012 10:28 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
Yes, I read that.  I guess it is too vague for me.  You gave examples of
everything except the situation I have a question about.  Should it be
"Well, John ...." or "Well, John ... ."?
I know how it should come out in braille, but I'm not sure how to format
it so that the braille translator makes it happen.
Tracy
Hi Tracy,

This is from the later part of the information I posted.  Does this help,
or
is it too vague?

An ellipsis and a period.  Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
  dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
  preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
  same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
  four dots is the period.

  If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
  and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
  of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
  follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
  gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
  ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In this
  case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
  following ellipsis.
  Example:
  As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
  Well, you know the story.

Mayrie


Mayrie



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Mayrie, you left out what to do if the elipsis comes at the end of the
sentence, and there are 4 dots.  "Well, John ...."
Is there a space after the elipsis in that case, or not?
Tracy

Hi Cindy,

Here is how to handle the ellipsis.

Formatting The Ellipsis

The ellipsis should be punctuated as if it were a word. Examples:
"Fools rush in ..."

"... for they shall inherit the earth"
  "Breathe, Mellissa. In ... and out. In ...
and out."
An ellipsis and a period.  Sometimes an ellipsis appears to be four
dots rather than three. This is because the ellipsis is either
preceded or followed by a period. Since the braille period is not the
same as the dots of an ellipsis, it must be determined which of the
four dots is the period.

If the sentence is incomplete, does not contain a subject and a verb
and express a complete thought, then the ellipsis is taking the place
of missing words within the sentence--in which the period immediately
follows the ellipsis, just as it would a word. If a sentence is
gramatically complete, the first dot represents the period and the
ellipsis represents a following missing sentence or sentences. In this
case a blank cell (a space) is left between the period and the
following ellipsis.
Example:
As you can see, I have followed your career. ... As to my own ....
Well, you know the story.




Mayrie



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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:18 PM
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oh, dear; now I can't remember, and I can't find ellipses in my notes
on my desktop. Are we now supposed to have no space before and after
the ellipses?




--- On Tue, 8/14/12, Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:




From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofing manual
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 3:47 AM


Hi Aidee,

There will be very few changes to the content of the scanning and
proofreading manual.  Footnotes will be handled differently in future,
and the ellipsis as well (it was misrepresented in the current
manual), but there is no reason you can't use the current manual to
learn.

Happy proofreading.

Mayrie



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I wanted to start proofing soon, but I'm aware that Mayrie is still
revising the proofing manual. Should I go by what the current one says
or should I wait until the revised one is up? Thank you all for your
help.

--
Regards,
Aidee
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