[bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks

The global replacement of the underline of blank space with 5 hyphens and a 
space on either side of them worked perfectly and looks fine to a sighted 
person such as I
Thanks for your suggestion, though;  




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> From: Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:30 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
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> 
>Hi Valerie,
>   This is an idea that I just had and probably not good, but 
what about 3 or 4 dots within brackets or parens; something like that?  
Would that work for sighted members, agree with braille users and not choke up 
the tools that bookshare uses?  Just a thought ...
>Marty 
>From: Valerie Maples 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:33 AM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the 
blanks
>  Hi, grandma Cindy!
> 
>I see two potential probelms with that.  i was told, but never 
verified, that underline was not preserved by the tool.  The second is that 
the tool reduces multiple spaces to a single space, so even if it preserved 
underline formatting, it would only be a single underline, similar to a single 
underscore, but not enough to convey a fill in the blank, IMHO.  Now if the 
tool could be tweaked to see and retain multiple spaces in underline format, 
that would be sweet... but may still mess with the Braille readers.
> 
>A conundrum, for sure!
> 
>Valerie, who is going back to the tedious task of paragraphing a 125 page 
book.  Grr...
> 
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> From: Cindy 
<popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wed, December 28, 2011 12:00:26 
AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 
Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
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>I have used the underline in format and my books haven't been 
rejected.  I leave a couple of spaces and then start the underlinefor 
several spaces  (for however long you think it should be depending on 
what's supposed to be filled in on it.
>G.cindy
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>> From: Vivian Flores  <vivian@xxxxxxxx>
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:09  PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss]  Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>
>>
>>Hi Valerie;
>>
>>Here's an idea, since we can use the 
  underline format, can you start the blank with a maybe an * or a hypen , X 
  number of spaces and end with an * or hyphen. Use the underline format from * 
  or hypen to * or hypen.
>>
>>Vivian
>>
>>At 06:25 PM 12/27/2011 -0800, you 
  wrote:
>>
>>Hi,  mayrie!
>>> 
>>>No, it is the nature of the beast; they are "smaller" 
    and naturally don't "touch" the adjoining one, unlike the underscores.  
    Between the placement being mid-letter as opposed to underneath it and the 
    natural spaces it looks like a  bunch of minus signs.  I know that 
    is no help probably, just an explanation of why it doesn't convey a missing 
    word/phrase.
>>> 
>>>Wish I was better at describing 
    things...
>>> 
>>>Valerie 
>>>
>>>
>>>Keep up with Nichole's 
    recovery:
>>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Mayrie ReNae  <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 6:52:01  PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the  blanks
>>>
>>>Hi  Valerie,
>>> 
>>>I didn't  mean spaces between the hyphens.  I meant that a blank to fill in  
>>>should look like ---- that.  Is that any  better?
>>> 
>>>Mayrie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>>>>________________________________
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27,  2011 4:14 PM
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the  blanks
>>>
>>>Mayrie;
>>> 
>>>I was afraid you would say 
    that.  No, hyphens are located higher and with spaces and would do as 
    much harm as good and be confusing, but if it chokes Braille, I guess we 
    have to defer to that and lose the fewer sighted readers.  Ugh! Oh, 
    well, that si why I ask ...
>>> 
>>>Valerie 
>>>
>>>
>>>Keep up with 
    Nichole's recovery:
>>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Mayrie ReNae  <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09  PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the  blanks
>>>
>>>Hi  Valerie,
>>> 
>>>Underscores choke the braille translator.  Will dashes not  work for sighted 
>>>people?  
>>> 
>>>Mayrie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>>>>________________________________
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27,  2011 3:15 PM
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>
>>>The 
    standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I think 5 would 
    still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable compromise 
or 
    are underscores tough in Braille?
>>> 
>>>Thanks for the help; this 
    book will be  alot of work, but a great resource!
>>> 
>>>Valerie 
>>>
>>>
>>>Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Mayrie ReNae  <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11  PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the  blanks
>>>
>>>Hi  Valerie,
>>> 
>>>Were it  me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to 
>>>indicate the  blanks that need to be filled in.  Is that what you are  
>>>asking?
>>> 
>>>Mayrie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>>>>________________________________
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27,  2011 12:18 PM
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>
>>>We are 
    working on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best practices for 
    displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study 
    sections.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>> 
>>>Valerie
>>>
>>>Keep up with Nichole's 
    recovery:
>>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples 
>>>
>>
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