[bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks

Hi, Cindy!  

That works for sighted volunteers, but is bad for Braille, thus the dilemma. 
Jamie Yates seemed to have the best idea, but I cannot find it at the moment. 
 Grin.
 Valerie


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From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 9:53:37 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks


What abouu this: __________ ? It's created by holding the shift key and the 
hypenkey down for a count of 2 or 3; or ___
holdiong the shift key and hitting the hyphen key 3 times. It's the longer line 
aboe the hyphen on the hyphen key 





________________________________
 From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:01 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
> 
>Hi Cindy!
>
>Thanks for experimenting with a blank.
>
>I think Mayrie said that the underscore would choke the braille conversion 
>tool.  It doesn't look like a blank on a braille display, because that 
>braille symbol is used to indicate italics.  In paper braille books, we can 
>use a symbol that is lower than hyphens so that it's a lot like the print 
>underscore, but, I guess the computers have a different idea.  That's too 
>bad, because if it could be displayed like the print underscore on a 
>braille display, our problem would be completely solved.  I guess we have 
>to put up with what works.
>
>Debby
>
>P.S. Just signing "Cindy" is fine, I think.
>
>At 05:32 PM 12/31/2011, Cindy wrote
>>I just replaced the few underlining of blsnk dpsce with 5 
>>hyphenstogether:-----
>>
>>It seems to created a ssosrt of dotted line--; if that causses problems, 
>>there is,  on  the top of the hyphen key a longer line: would this 
>>work?__________
>>
>>One gets it by using the the shift key with the hyphen key. In the above 
>>example I just held it for a second or teo, but here: I'll hit it 5 times 
_____
>>G. Cindy (Does another Cindy post a lot? IF not, it's easier for me just 
>>to sign myself Cindy than G. Cindy smile
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:20 PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>
>>>Hi Valerie, Mayrie and everyone!
>>>
>>>I received many wonderful things for Christmas, one being a  SyncBraille
>>>braille display which I'm using with Window-Eyes.  I would have responded
>>>sooner, but I was getting acquainted with the braille display and getting
>>>the settings right in Window-Eyes for a 20 cell display after figuring out
>>>it was breaking words in odd places until I told Window-Eyes the correct
>>>amount of cells my display has.
>>>
>>>Now, getting to the question in this message:
>>>
>>>When I type four hyphens:
>>>
>>>----
>>>
>>>whether I arrow over them or read them on the braille display, the four
>>>hyphens are close together as far as I can tell.  Although I know a print
>>>hyphen is higher than an underline/underscore, when the hyphens are close
>>>together instead of this:
>>>
>>>- - - -
>>>
>>>where I purposely inserted spaces, can't that be less than a  horrible
>>>compromise?
>>>
>>>Debby
>>>
>>>At 06:14 PM 12/27/2011, Valerie Maples wrote
>>> >Mayrie;
>>> >
>>> >I was afraid you would say that.  No, hyphens are located higher and with
>>> >spaces and would do as much harm as good and be confusing, but if it
>>> >chokes Braille, I guess we have to defer to that and lose the fewer
>>> >sighted readers.  Ugh! Oh, well, that si why I ask ...
>>> >
>>> >Valerie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>> >http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09 PM
>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>> >
>>> >Hi Valerie,
>>> >
>>> >Underscores choke the braille translator.  Will dashes not work for
>>> >sighted people?
>>> >
>>> >Mayrie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >----------
>>> >From: 
>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:15 PM
>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>> >
>>> >The standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I  think 5
>>> >would still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable
>>> >compromise or are underscores tough in Braille?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks for the help; this book will be  alot of work, but a great resource!
>>> >
>>> >Valerie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge 
>>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11 PM
>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>> >
>>> >Hi Valerie,
>>> >
>>> >Were it me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to
>>> >indicate the blanks that need to be filled in.  Is that what you are 
>>> asking?
>>> >
>>> >Mayrie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >----------
>>> >From: 
>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:18 PM
>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>> >
>>> >We are working  on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best
>>> >practices for displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study 
>>> sections.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks!
>>> >
>>> >Valerie
>>> >
>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge 
>>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>>>
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>>Proverbs 15:2 NKJV
>>
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