[bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
- From: "Sue Stevens" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 04:13:59 -0600
Hi Cindy,
It looks strange in Braille. It is the italics sign in contracted Braille
Grade II. And that symbol at the end of the row of italics looks like (?) open
parenthesis, question mark, and closing parenthesis, although I know it is not.
That is just how it translates.
Best,
Sue S.
From: Cindy
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:07 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
o; o.k. It's not the same as underline. i.e. the apple key plus the u for
underlining or the u for underline in the apple format file, so I thought
maybe it would work--guess not. I'll use the 5 hyphens if I need to or
Jamie's [blank line]
Cindy
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From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:53 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
What abouu this: __________ ? It's created by holding the shift key and the
hypenkey down for a count of 2 or 3; or ___
holdiong the shift key and hitting the hyphen key 3 times. It's the longer
line aboe the hyphen on the hyphen key
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From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
Hi Cindy!
Thanks for experimenting with a blank.
I think Mayrie said that the underscore would choke the braille conversion
tool. It doesn't look like a blank on a braille display, because that
braille symbol is used to indicate italics. In paper braille books, we can
use a symbol that is lower than hyphens so that it's a lot like the print
underscore, but, I guess the computers have a different idea. That's too
bad, because if it could be displayed like the print underscore on a
braille display, our problem would be completely solved. I guess we have
to put up with what works.
Debby
P.S. Just signing "Cindy" is fine, I think.
At 05:32 PM 12/31/2011, Cindy wrote
>I just replaced the few underlining of blsnk dpsce with 5
>hyphenstogether:-----
>
>It seems to created a ssosrt of dotted line--; if that causses problems,
>there is, on the top of the hyphen key a longer line: would this
>work?__________
>
>One gets it by using the the shift key with the hyphen key. In the above
>example I just held it for a second or teo, but here: I'll hit it 5 times
_____
>G. Cindy (Does another Cindy post a lot? IF not, it's easier for me just
>to sign myself Cindy than G. Cindy smile
>
>
>
>>
>>From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:20 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>
>>Hi Valerie, Mayrie and everyone!
>>
>>I received many wonderful things for Christmas, one being a SyncBraille
>>braille display which I'm using with Window-Eyes. I would have responded
>>sooner, but I was getting acquainted with the braille display and getting
>>the settings right in Window-Eyes for a 20 cell display after figuring out
>>it was breaking words in odd places until I told Window-Eyes the correct
>>amount of cells my display has.
>>
>>Now, getting to the question in this message:
>>
>>When I type four hyphens:
>>
>>----
>>
>>whether I arrow over them or read them on the braille display, the four
>>hyphens are close together as far as I can tell. Although I know a print
>>hyphen is higher than an underline/underscore, when the hyphens are close
>>together instead of this:
>>
>>- - - -
>>
>>where I purposely inserted spaces, can't that be less than a horrible
>>compromise?
>>
>>Debby
>>
>>At 06:14 PM 12/27/2011, Valerie Maples wrote
>> >Mayrie;
>> >
>> >I was afraid you would say that. No, hyphens are located higher and
with
>> >spaces and would do as much harm as good and be confusing, but if it
>> >chokes Braille, I guess we have to defer to that and lose the fewer
>> >sighted readers. Ugh! Oh, well, that si why I ask ...
>> >
>> >Valerie
>> >
>> >
>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>> >http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09 PM
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >Hi Valerie,
>> >
>> >Underscores choke the braille translator. Will dashes not work for
>> >sighted people?
>> >
>> >Mayrie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----------
>> >From:
>>
<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:15 PM
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >The standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I think 5
>> >would still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable
>> >compromise or are underscores tough in Braille?
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help; this book will be alot of work, but a great
resource!
>> >
>> >Valerie
>> >
>> >
>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>
><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge
>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11 PM
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >Hi Valerie,
>> >
>> >Were it me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to
>> >indicate the blanks that need to be filled in. Is that what you are
>> asking?
>> >
>> >Mayrie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----------
>> >From:
>>
<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:18 PM
>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> >
>> >We are working on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best
>> >practices for displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study
>> sections.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >Valerie
>> >
>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>
><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge
>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>>
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>>
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>
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