[bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks

  • From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 21:01:56 -0600

Hi Cindy!

Thanks for experimenting with a blank.
I think Mayrie said that the underscore would choke the braille conversion tool. It doesn't look like a blank on a braille display, because that braille symbol is used to indicate italics. In paper braille books, we can use a symbol that is lower than hyphens so that it's a lot like the print underscore, but, I guess the computers have a different idea. That's too bad, because if it could be displayed like the print underscore on a braille display, our problem would be completely solved. I guess we have to put up with what works. 

Debby

P.S. Just signing "Cindy" is fine, I think.

At 05:32 PM 12/31/2011, Cindy wrote
I just replaced the few underlining of blsnk dpsce with 5 hyphenstogether:-----
It seems to created a ssosrt of dotted line--; if that causses problems, there is, on the top of the hyphen key a longer line: would this work?__________
One gets it by using the the shift key with the hyphen key. In the above example I just held it for a second or teo, but here: I'll hit it 5 times _____ G. Cindy (Does another Cindy post a lot? IF not, it's easier for me just to sign myself Cindy than G. Cindy smile 





From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:20 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks

Hi Valerie, Mayrie and everyone!

I received many wonderful things for Christmas, one being a SyncBraille
braille display which I'm using with Window-Eyes.  I would have responded
sooner, but I was getting acquainted with the braille display and getting
the settings right in Window-Eyes for a 20 cell display after figuring out
it was breaking words in odd places until I told Window-Eyes the correct
amount of cells my display has.

Now, getting to the question in this message:

When I type four hyphens:

----

whether I arrow over them or read them on the braille display, the four
hyphens are close together as far as I can tell.  Although I know a print
hyphen is higher than an underline/underscore, when the hyphens are close
together instead of this:

- - - -

where I purposely inserted spaces, can't that be less than a horrible
compromise?

Debby

At 06:14 PM 12/27/2011, Valerie Maples wrote
>Mayrie;
>
>I was afraid you would say that.  No, hyphens are located higher and with
>spaces and would do as much harm as good and be confusing, but if it
>chokes Braille, I guess we have to defer to that and lose the fewer
>sighted readers.  Ugh! Oh, well, that si why I ask ...
>
>Valerie
>
>
>Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>
>
>
>From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>
>Hi Valerie,
>
>Underscores choke the braille translator.  Will dashes not work for
>sighted people?
>
>Mayrie
>
>
>
>
>----------
>From: <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:15 PM
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>
>The standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I think 5
>would still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable
>compromise or are underscores tough in Braille?
>
>Thanks for the help; this book will be  alot of work, but a great resource!
>
>Valerie
>
>
>Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge .org/visit/nicholemaples 
>
>
>
>From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>
>Hi Valerie,
>
>Were it me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to
>indicate the blanks that need to be filled in. Is that what you are asking? 
>
>Mayrie
>
>
>
>
>----------
>From: <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:18 PM
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks
>
>We are working on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best
>practices for displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study sections. 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Valerie
>
>Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge .org/visit/nicholemaples 

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