thanks. 4 hyphens with a space at either end is quicker to type, and easier for me to do without mistyping, than the bank line in brackets so I'll do that Cindy >________________________________ > From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 2:55 AM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks > > >Hi Cindy, > >This thing that you typed will not work with the braille translator. It's either the four hyphens with a space on each end, or [blank line] that will be most effective. In my opinion ---- works best, is simplest and shortest to keyboard into a book, and according to the teacher friends of mine with whom I've talked won't confuse sighted readers. But [blank line] would be equally acceptable. > >Mayrie > > > > >________________________________ > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy >Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:54 PM >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks > > >What abouu this: __________ ? It's created by holding the shift key and the hypenkey down for a count of 2 or 3; or ___ >holdiong the shift key and hitting the hyphen key 3 times. It's the longer line aboe the hyphen on the hyphen key > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:01 PM >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >> >>Hi Cindy! >> >>Thanks for experimenting with a blank. >> >>I think Mayrie said that the underscore would choke the braille conversion >>tool. It doesn't look like a blank on a braille display, because that >>braille symbol is used to indicate italics. In paper braille books, we can >>use a symbol that is lower than hyphens so that it's a lot like the print >>underscore, but, I guess the computers have a different idea. That's too >>bad, because if it could be displayed like the print underscore on a >>braille display, our problem would be completely solved. I guess we have >>to put up with what works. >> >>Debby >> >>P.S. Just signing "Cindy" is fine, I think. >> >>At 05:32 PM 12/31/2011, Cindy wrote >>>I just replaced the few underlining of blsnk dpsce with 5 >>>hyphenstogether:----- >>> >>>It seems to created a ssosrt of dotted line--; if that causses problems, >>>there is, on the top of the hyphen key a longer line: would this >>>work?__________ >>> >>>One gets it by using the the shift key with the hyphen key. In the above >>>example I just held it for a second or teo, but here: I'll hit it 5 times _____ >>>G. Cindy (Does another Cindy post a lot? IF not, it's easier for me just >>>to sign myself Cindy than G. Cindy smile >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:20 PM >>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>>> >>>>Hi Valerie, Mayrie and everyone! >>>> >>>>I received many wonderful things for Christmas, one being a SyncBraille >>>>braille display which I'm using with Window-Eyes. I would have responded >>>>sooner, but I was getting acquainted with the braille display and getting >>>>the settings right in Window-Eyes for a 20 cell display after figuring out >>>>it was breaking words in odd places until I told Window-Eyes the correct >>>>amount of cells my display has. >>>> >>>>Now, getting to the question in this message: >>>> >>>>When I type four hyphens: >>>> >>>>---- >>>> >>>>whether I arrow over them or read them on the braille display, the four >>>>hyphens are close together as far as I can tell. Although I know a print >>>>hyphen is higher than an underline/underscore, when the hyphens are close >>>>together instead of this: >>>> >>>>- - - - >>>> >>>>where I purposely inserted spaces, can't that be less than a horrible >>>>compromise? >>>> >>>>Debby >>>> >>>>At 06:14 PM 12/27/2011, Valerie Maples wrote >>>> >Mayrie; >>>> > >>>> >I was afraid you would say that. No, hyphens are located higher and with >>>> >spaces and would do as much harm as good and be confusing, but if it >>>> >chokes Braille, I guess we have to defer to that and lose the fewer >>>> >sighted readers. Ugh! Oh, well, that si why I ask ... >>>> > >>>> >Valerie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery: >>>> >http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09 PM >>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>>> > >>>> >Hi Valerie, >>>> > >>>> >Underscores choke the braille translator. Will dashes not work for >>>> >sighted people? >>>> > >>>> >Mayrie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >---------- >>>> >From: >>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples >>>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:15 PM >>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>>> > >>>> >The standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I think 5 >>>> >would still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable >>>> >compromise or are underscores tough in Braille? >>>> > >>>> >Thanks for the help; this book will be alot of work, but a great resource! >>>> > >>>> >Valerie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery: >>>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge >>>> .org/visit/nicholemaples >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11 PM >>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>>> > >>>> >Hi Valerie, >>>> > >>>> >Were it me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to >>>> >indicate the blanks that need to be filled in. Is that what you are >>>> asking? >>>> > >>>> >Mayrie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >---------- >>>> >From: >>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples >>>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:18 PM >>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks >>>> > >>>> >We are working on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best >>>> >practices for displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study >>>> sections. >>>> > >>>> >Thanks! >>>> > >>>> >Valerie >>>> > >>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery: >>>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge >>>> .org/visit/nicholemaples >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mailto:<<mailto:the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>-- >>>>The tongue of the wise uses knowledge rightly, But the mouth of fools pours >>>>forth foolishness. >>>>Proverbs 15:2 NKJV >>>> >>>>"Teach me, and I will hold my tongue >>>>; Cause me to understand wherein I have erred. >>>>Job 6:24 NKJV >>>> >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>><mailto:bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list >>>>of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> mailto:<the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>-- >>>The tongue of the wise uses knowledge rightly, But the mouth of fools >>>pours forth foolishness. >>>Proverbs 15:2 NKJV >>> >>>"Teach me, and I will hold my tongue >>>; Cause me to understand wherein I have erred. >>>Job 6:24 NKJV >>> >> >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> >> >> >> > >