[bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:07:35 -0800 (PST)

o; o.k. It's not the same as underline. i.e. the apple key plus the u for 
underlining or the u for underline  in the apple format file, so I thought 
maybe it would work--guess  not. I'll use the 5 hyphens if I need to  or 
Jamie's [blank line]
Cindy




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> From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:53 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
> 
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>What abouu this: __________ ? It's created by holding the shift key and the 
>hypenkey down for a count of 2 or 3; or ___
>holdiong the shift key and hitting the hyphen key 3 times. It's the longer 
>line aboe the hyphen on the hyphen key 
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>>________________________________
>> From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:01 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>> 
>>Hi Cindy!
>>
>>Thanks for experimenting with a blank.
>>
>>I think Mayrie said that the underscore would choke the braille conversion 
>>tool.  It doesn't look like a blank on a braille display, because that 
>>braille symbol is used to indicate italics.  In paper braille books, we can 
>>use a symbol that is lower than hyphens so that it's a lot like the print 
>>underscore, but, I guess the computers have a different idea.  That's too 
>>bad, because if it could be displayed like the print underscore on a 
>>braille display, our problem would be completely solved.  I guess we have 
>>to put up with what works.
>>
>>Debby
>>
>>P.S. Just signing "Cindy" is fine, I think.
>>
>>At 05:32 PM 12/31/2011, Cindy wrote
>>>I just replaced the few underlining of blsnk dpsce with 5 
>>>hyphenstogether:-----
>>>
>>>It seems to created a ssosrt of dotted line--; if that causses problems, 
>>>there is,  on
 the top of the hyphen key a longer line: would this 
>>>work?__________
>>>
>>>One gets it by using the the shift key with the hyphen key. In the above 
>>>example I just held it for a second or teo, but here: I'll hit it 5 times 
>>>_____
>>>G. Cindy (Does another Cindy post a lot? IF not, it's easier for me just 
>>>to sign myself Cindy than G. Cindy smile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:20 PM
>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>>
>>>>Hi Valerie, Mayrie and everyone!
>>>>
>>>>I received many wonderful things for Christmas, one being a
 SyncBraille
>>>>braille display which I'm using with Window-Eyes.  I would have responded
>>>>sooner, but I was getting acquainted with the braille display and getting
>>>>the settings right in Window-Eyes for a 20 cell display after figuring out
>>>>it was breaking words in odd places until I told Window-Eyes the correct
>>>>amount of cells my display has.
>>>>
>>>>Now, getting to the question in this message:
>>>>
>>>>When I type four hyphens:
>>>>
>>>>----
>>>>
>>>>whether I arrow over them or read them on the braille display, the four
>>>>hyphens are close together as far as I can tell.  Although I know a print
>>>>hyphen is higher than an underline/underscore, when the hyphens are close
>>>>together instead of this:
>>>>
>>>>- - - -
>>>>
>>>>where I purposely inserted spaces, can't that be less than a
 horrible
>>>>compromise?
>>>>
>>>>Debby
>>>>
>>>>At 06:14 PM 12/27/2011, Valerie Maples wrote
>>>> >Mayrie;
>>>> >
>>>> >I was afraid you would say that.  No, hyphens are located higher and with
>>>> >spaces and would do as much harm as good and be confusing, but if it
>>>> >chokes Braille, I guess we have to defer to that and lose the fewer
>>>> >sighted readers.  Ugh! Oh, well, that si why I ask ...
>>>> >
>>>> >Valerie
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>>> >http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09 PM
>>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>> >
>>>> >Hi Valerie,
>>>> >
>>>> >Underscores choke the braille translator.  Will dashes not work for
>>>> >sighted people?
>>>> >
>>>> >Mayrie
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >----------
>>>> >From: 
>>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>>>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:15 PM
>>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>> >
>>>> >The standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I
 think 5
>>>> >would still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable
>>>> >compromise or are underscores tough in Braille?
>>>> >
>>>> >Thanks for the help; this book will be  alot of work, but a great 
>>>> >resource!
>>>> >
>>>> >Valerie
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge 
>>>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >From: Mayrie ReNae <<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11 PM
>>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>> >
>>>> >Hi Valerie,
>>>> >
>>>> >Were it me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to
>>>> >indicate the blanks that need to be filled in.  Is that what you are 
>>>> asking?
>>>> >
>>>> >Mayrie
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >----------
>>>> >From: 
>>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>>>> >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:18 PM
>>>> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks
>>>> >
>>>> >We are working
 on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best
>>>> >practices for displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study 
>>>> sections.
>>>> >
>>>> >Thanks!
>>>> >
>>>> >Valerie
>>>> >
>>>> >Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>>>> ><http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples>http://www.caringbridge 
>>>> .org/visit/nicholemaples
>>>>
>>>>                                 --
>>>>                 mailto:<<mailto:the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>--
>>>>The tongue of the wise uses knowledge rightly, But the mouth of fools pours
>>>>forth foolishness.
>>>>Proverbs 15:2 NKJV
>>>>
>>>>"Teach me, and I will hold my tongue
>>>>; Cause me to understand wherein I have erred.
>>>>Job 6:24 NKJV
>>>>
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>>>The tongue of the wise uses knowledge rightly, But the mouth of fools 
>>>pours forth foolishness.
>>>Proverbs 15:2 NKJV
>>>
>>>"Teach me, and I will hold my tongue
>>>; Cause me to understand wherein I have erred.
>>>Job 6:24 NKJV
>>>
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