The global replacement of the underline of blank space with 5 hyphens and a space on either side of them worked perfectly and looks fine to a sighted person such as I Thanks for your suggestion, though; >________________________________ > From: Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:30 AM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks > > > >Hi Valerie, > This is an idea that I just had and probably not good, but what about 3 or 4 dots within brackets or parens; something like that? Would that work for sighted members, agree with braille users and not choke up the tools that bookshare uses? Just a thought ... >Marty >From: Valerie Maples >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:33 AM >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks > Hi, grandma Cindy! > >I see two potential probelms with that. i was told, but never verified, that underline was not preserved by the tool. The second is that the tool reduces multiple spaces to a single space, so even if it preserved underline formatting, it would only be a single underline, similar to a single underscore, but not enough to convey a fill in the blank, IMHO. Now if the tool could be tweaked to see and retain multiple spaces in underline format, that would be sweet... but may still mess with the Braille readers. > >A conundrum, for sure! > >Valerie, who is going back to the tedious task of paragraphing a 125 page book. Grr... > > >________________________________ > From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> >To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wed, December 28, 2011 12:00:26 AM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks > > >I have used the underline in format and my books haven't been rejected. I leave a couple of spaces and then start the underlinefor several spaces (for however long you think it should be depending on what's supposed to be filled in on it. >G.cindy > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Vivian Flores <vivian@xxxxxxxx> >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:09 PM >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >> >> >>Hi Valerie; >> >>Here's an idea, since we can use the underline format, can you start the blank with a maybe an * or a hypen , X number of spaces and end with an * or hyphen. Use the underline format from * or hypen to * or hypen. >> >>Vivian >> >>At 06:25 PM 12/27/2011 -0800, you wrote: >> >>Hi, mayrie! >>> >>>No, it is the nature of the beast; they are "smaller" and naturally don't "touch" the adjoining one, unlike the underscores. Between the placement being mid-letter as opposed to underneath it and the natural spaces it looks like a bunch of minus signs. I know that is no help probably, just an explanation of why it doesn't convey a missing word/phrase. >>> >>>Wish I was better at describing things... >>> >>>Valerie >>> >>> >>>Keep up with Nichole's recovery: >>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples >>> >>> >>> >>>From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 6:52:01 PM >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>> >>>Hi Valerie, >>> >>>I didn't mean spaces between the hyphens. I meant that a blank to fill in >>>should look like ---- that. Is that any better? >>> >>>Mayrie >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>________________________________ >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples >>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:14 PM >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>> >>>Mayrie; >>> >>>I was afraid you would say that. No, hyphens are located higher and with spaces and would do as much harm as good and be confusing, but if it chokes Braille, I guess we have to defer to that and lose the fewer sighted readers. Ugh! Oh, well, that si why I ask ... >>> >>>Valerie >>> >>> >>>Keep up with Nichole's recovery: >>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples >>> >>> >>> >>>From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:54:09 PM >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>> >>>Hi Valerie, >>> >>>Underscores choke the braille translator. Will dashes not work for sighted >>>people? >>> >>>Mayrie >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>________________________________ >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples >>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:15 PM >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>> >>>The standard for sighted is underscores, and usually 10, but I think 5 would still give a dighted reader the idea; could that be a workable compromise or are underscores tough in Braille? >>> >>>Thanks for the help; this book will be alot of work, but a great resource! >>> >>>Valerie >>> >>> >>>Keep up with Nichole's recovery: >>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples >>> >>> >>> >>>From: Mayrie ReNae <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: Tue, December 27, 2011 5:11:11 PM >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Refresher on fill in the blanks >>> >>>Hi Valerie, >>> >>>Were it me, I would use four hyphens together, surrounded by spaces to >>>indicate the blanks that need to be filled in. Is that what you are >>>asking? >>> >>>Mayrie >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>________________________________ >>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples >>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:18 PM >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Refresher on fill in the blanks >>> >>>We are working on a bible study guide and I cannot remember the best practices for displaying/conveying fill in the blanks in the study sections. >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Valerie >>> >>>Keep up with Nichole's recovery: >>>http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples >>> >> >> > >