Oh, I do that. I was in a restaurant once, and the waitress hollered at me " what would you like, sir!" and I hollered right back "To take you to bed, ma'am!" as loud as I could. She never hollered at me again, nor did any other servers at that particular restaurant. <smirk.> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People > Hmmm, maybe this one should go under this subject. Although, maybe it > should be under people who do not think. > > Back in the 80s I went on a business trip. I took a flight to New York > state. > > When I got to my seat I found that I had 2 other travelers sitting in the > same row with me. That was fine since I enjoy talking with people and > meeting new people. We hit it off pretty well too. After a very few > questions about my Guide Dog and how we travel things moved to much more > normal topics. > > After a while the flight attendants began the process of distributing drinks > and nuts or something of that sort. Of course I could hear them slowly > moving their way along the isle. I wasn't planning on partaking and was > planning to politely let them know that when they asked. > > When the flight atendant got to our row she placed 1 hand on the back of my > seat and 1 on the back of the seat in front of me. It didn't bother me but > I had to wonder what that would be like for a sighted guy. She asked the 2 > people between me and the window waht they would like. > > Once she had gotten their refreshments she stepped back. She leaned down > very close to my face and literally yelled, "would you like anything to > eat?". > > I just quietly said no thanks. > > After she moved on down the isle the 2 folks next to me expressed amazement > and near anger that she would do such a thing. One of them started > snickering and said, "you are just blind not deaf too right?". > > I have to admit at this point that I seriously considered screaming back, > "no thanks.". But I didn't. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:37 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People > > > > What you say is true. Regrettably, we live in a dangerous world. If I'd > > been more uneasy, I might have shoved him away, which could be dangerous > > for > > him in the middle of an intersection. > > > > I also think you're right about more physical contact. A new > > acquaintance, > > when offering to guide me in a restaurant (a courtesy I will accept, > > because > > the restaurants I tend to go to seem to have lots of cramped spaces and > > such), slipped my hand in his to guide. I pulled my hand back and took > > his > > arm. I wouldn't have minded flirting with him, but he's married, and so > > even holding hands seems off limits to me. Maybe that's an entirely > > different subject, though. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elizabeth and > > Burton > > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People > > > > Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a woman without asking first is > > a > > stressful and possibly dangerous experience for the person being grabbed. > > I > > understand the need to help. I will stress in the book what we all know > > and > > have been trying to stress and will use humor to do it. The human being > > is > > equipped with a mouth and the ability to use it. Please let's learn the > > following phrases. Repeat after me children: > > "May I pet your dog." > > "Do you need help." > > alternatives to "Do you need help" include "Are you all right?" > > > > The implicit thing often thought is "I am worried about you. Do you need > > help?" (can I stop worrying) and the other question is "I have nobody to > > help and here is a person I can help." I do not like this attitude much > > since I dislike being an object attracting folks who feel so non-needed > > and > > attracting them for their needs not my help By the way, you can tell that > > kind. Those are the ones who keep insisting and hang on after you have > > said > > you do not need help. > > > > On a more ominous note, I think there are men who physically grab blind > > women for the same reason they would like to grab or touch a woman or any > > kind. You can tell this kind because he is the one who tries to cop a > > feel > > of my tit while I am hholding his arm to cross a street. > > > > Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to be at least a bit concerned > > about somebody grabbing them particularly in situations where he might be > > trying to pick your pocket or such. The fact is many of that kind are put > > off some by dogs. > > > > I also think women who are blind get physically contacted more than do > > blind > > men. Somebody from AFB wrote a NY Times article about it a few years ago. > > I will do my best to get ahold of it. I want AFB in on the book project > > in > > some way, by the way. > > > > This thing really might take off. > > > > E. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > > of > > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/567 - Release Date: 12/4/2006 > > 7:18 AM > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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