[bksvol-discuss] Re: Killers Wake by Bernard Cornwell -- Sorry, had to nuke it

  • From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:28:03 -0500

Hi, Mickey!  No, you definitely are not screwing up. <Smile>  Until the
Bookshare staff crack down on us, much of this process is subjective.  Each
volunteer is going to have certain criteria for scanning and/or validating
books.  Over the last couple of years, I have become increasingly conscious
of page integrity and spell checks for books that I have scanned myself.  I
agree with Mary that it might be best to validate my own submissions.  I do
think that page numbers are important, especially for textbooks and maybe
some other things as well.  However, from the beginning, the Bookshare staff
has made it clear that the lack of page numbers is not grounds for rejecting
a book when the text is all there.  If this is hard for a volunteer to
determine without reading the entire book, he or she has the option of
releasing it for another volunteer or contacting the original submitter to
see if fixes are possible.  Unless a book is of poor quality, rejection
should be a last resort.  Take care, and thanks for your help!

Jana

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 4:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Killers Wake by Bernard Cornwell -- Sorry, had
to nuke it


> I'm a fairly new validator. I'm not sure how to make sure every page is
> perfect. I believed this was a volunteer job, where I could make books
> available to myself and others, increasing the scanned material available.
> If a book is complete and readable, I've been validating it. If it is a
> textbook, page numbers are important. Otherwise, I didn't think it made
that
> much difference.
>
> What I'm getting from this is I may as well throw in the sponge, let
others
> do the work, and worry about page numbers. I can then worry about content.
> I'm a proofreader, so am considered pretty anal. But this tops me.
>
> Not to start a war, just trying to find out if I'm truly screwing up.
>
> Mickey
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pam Quinn" <quinns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 4:06 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Killers Wake by Bernard Cornwell -- Sorry,
had
> to nuke it
>
>
> > Definitely agree with everything said here. I've been validating my
> > own submissions a lot lately for that very reason, not to mention that
> > there is a surplus of books waiting for validation right now anyway.
> > If we submit books and know them to be of excellent quality and an
> > easy validation, why not get them validated ourselves.
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > Original message:
> >
> >
> > >Well, what I have learned from this  discussion is that I will validate
> my own stuff from now on. I am not going to leave blank pages and pages
with
> only images in books, and I'm not going to have somebody come
> > >along and decide that excellent quality text that I submit is messed up
> because they see issues with page numbering discrepancies. Its irritating
to
> have blank pages in books. I can see it for reference materials with an
> > >index, but not for your everyday average novel. I didn't submit this
> particular book. But if I did, and I found out that it got zapped because
I
> had left out blank pages, I wouldn't be particularly happy. And what do
you
> > >do with books whose page numbers get scrambled by the ocr? I just had
one
> like that. I have no idea why, but the page numbers were quite often
messed
> up. Do you honestly think its worthwhile for somebody to
> > >spend a bunch of time fixing up page numbers in a novel that nobody's
> going to read for reference when they could be spending that same amount
of
> time fixing actual text errors in some other book or scanning
> > >another book?  It would be nice if wew could release with comments,
> because that way, you could have put that back into the pool with a
comment
> that you found page number problems but didn't check for actual
> > >text continuity.  It just seems to me that too much can go wrong with
> page numbers, and people can and will leave blanks and images out. So
nuking
> for page numbering discontinuity will inevitibly result in good texts
> > >wasted and volunteers being less than thrilled because perfectly good
> texts that they spent time on have been zapped due to an over reliance on
an
> error-prone method for validation.
> > >Mary
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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