That's right Evan, smile. I remember those days, and believe me it was sometimes frustrating, waiting, and waiting. It took over a year one time for one of my books to make it in, there was a debate which book was better Bookshare's or mine, smile, mine won out. Been volunteering now for almost 9 years, actually is 9 years, started in November of 2001.
Shelley L. Rhodes, VRT Guide dogs for the Blind Alumni Association www.guidedogs.comReading a book is like rewriting it for yourself. You bring to a novel, anything you read, all your experience of the world. You bring your history and you read it in your own terms. -Angela Carter, novelist and journalist (1940-1992)
----- Original Message ----- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:21 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert
Robert, I think you might be worrying unnecessarily. I remember, before Carrie took over the approval process, when we had to wait weeks, and sometimes even months--yes, that's months--for books in the Admin queue to get approved. (People who've been here for three years or more can tell you that I am not exagerating.) I think if you had to wait for weeks, then maybe there would be something to worry about.Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and RobertThe proofreaders are doing a good job. It is after they get into the cue that hurts both submitters and proofreaders. Let me just give an example and nobody and I repeat nobody takes this wrong. A Dream To Follow was submitted Saturday. I was checking the cue to see if there where any good books that I might see in a few days and behold it was in the cue but that evening it was gone but not back to the check out page or rejection cue. Give the staff time though, it is just after the holidays but on the other hand I was the one that submitted Going Overboard and it was in the collection a day or two later. Just an example how things move. That is why I am confused about what is accepted or not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and RobertUnfortunately, I'm slowing up the process. I have 4 books currently in my pile to proof, one of which I've had for ages--but I keep interrupting the proofing to keep the books-being-scanned- and wish lists updated, and to obtain books from the library to provide missing or garble pages or chapter titles and pages, ingredients for recipes--little things that can done be relatively quickly. If an of the books I have downloaded are wanted more immediately, I can move them to the front of the pile. At the moment I'm finally working on Kind of Blue ;(because of the odd way it's paged (only every other page is numbered and there are photos interrupting). Also, I have one more book to delete end-of-line paragraph paragraphs. Then I should be able to make better progress. smileCindy CindyWish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned list available at sites belowWish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+ListBooks Being Scanned List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and Robert To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:26 PM Gwen, you're right. Robert is an experienced and valuable member of our community. Robert, how many books do you have that are waiting to be approved? Are they on step 1 or in the admin queue? Gwen, there are several factors in play regarding Robert's books. I don't know if you're aware of all of these, so I thought I'd share them. Some of them can probably be addressed by people on this list. Others can't. On the staff side, Carrie was on vacation for a week before Thanksgiving. Also, most of the staff had some time off last week for the holiday. I have found that she generally approves books from volunteers within 24 to 48 hours of their entry into the admin queue. Carrie used to be a volunteer just like us, and she remembers the frustration of waiting and waiting for a book to be approved. She has worked with Robert as a fellow volunteer as well and knows of his skills and flexible attitude. From here, it looks like the bottleneck right now is in getting books proofread. The number of books on step 1 is piling up again. Our number of active volunteers and their preferences for reading determine how fast a book is processed. This factor affects everyone who submits books. For awhile everyone was worried about not having any books to work on. Some people quit looking for new books on step 1 because of all of the books with holds on them. Now there are a lot of excellent books needing a proofreader. The other factor, on a more personal level, is hard for me to explain. Robert is a consistent and dedicated volunteer. I respect him for his dedication and teamwork. Yet I am hesitant to take his books for a personal reason. In the past, Robert has been willing to scan some adult-rated content for Bookshare. It's my perception that much of what he scans would be classified as steamy romances. I prefer not to read the steamier books. This isn't about Robert or his skills as a submitter. It's about me and what I want to read. I generally don't like to draw attention to this issue since I think it's a personal one on my part. Since I feel uncomfortable asking Robert which books are adult, I let others take his books when he submits. I figured it would make him angry if I asked about it. If I am wrong about what Robert submits, I apologize and take full responsibility for not checking out my assumptions with him. I think what I'm saying is that we might do a better job of communicating with each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't know that Robert's books weren't getting added to the collection. I also assumed that most people are more comfortable with adult content than I am and that those would be done quickly. I could be wrong on both counts. The last thing I want is for you or Robert to feel ignored or unappreciated. I don't have an immediate solution. I think we could find ways to work this out together, with the help of the Bookshare community. It would help us fix the problem if we know exactly what's going on, if the books are on step 1, or are they getting lost in the admin queue. Monica Willyard "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker At 10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote: I think a timely manner is the key. And those who have scanned for years and their books are good, and everyone knows they are good, to me there shouldn't be a delay. Some books get up there right away, so what is the difference in books? Especially those of like Robert's when his books have been tried and true for a long time. Eventually volunteers are gonna quit submitting books, because they aren't getting anywhere. Some books stay up there for a long time. It's grand for kids books grand for grants, but I think they are forgetting the submitters especially those hard working ones like Bob who turns in a quality scan each and every time not like his wife who turns no quality scans LOL. I understand me, but Bob that is different. His should go right away. Gwen----- Original Message -----From: robert tweedy To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main concern these days? That's fine as long as our books get into the system on a timey matter.----- Original Message -----From: Denise Thompson To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:50 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main concern these days? I think BKS's concern is to do books that fit their grant money. educational which seems to be most books for kids and teens in addition to text books, of course. Adult books don't seem to be educational- especially those that have some romance in them. Since they have out-sourcers and do their grant books with them as well as in house, I feel like I need to continue to scan adult books for the rest of us who aren't students and who don't want to read kids books and teen books. Denise At 09:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote: I've noticed a strong emphasis on children's books as well. This is wonderful, so long as it isn't at the expense of books for us adults, too. 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