[bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert

Right. I am just concerned that the submitter and reader get the credit in a 
timely matter. After all one book that I did was lost but I could resubmit it 
if need be but don't know what happened to the original.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Denise Thompson 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:08 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert


  In your example are you talking about submitting for proofing and someone 
picked it up right away, but you still haven't heard anything? 

  At 05:58 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote:

    The proofreaders are doing a good job. It is after they get into the cue 
that hurts both submitters and proofreaders. Let me just give an example and 
nobody and I repeat nobody takes this wrong. A Dream To Follow was submitted 
Saturday. I was checking the cue to see if there where any good books that I 
might see in a few days and behold it was in the cue but that evening it was 
gone but not back to the check out page or rejection cue. Give the staff time 
though, it is just after the holidays but on the other hand I was the one that 
submitted Going Overboard and it was in the collection a day or two later. Just 
an example how things move. That is why I am confused about what is accepted or 
not.
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
    To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:18 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert



      Unfortunately, I'm slowing up the process. I have 4 books currently in my 
pile to proof, one of which I've had for ages--but I keep interrupting the 
proofing to keep the books-being-scanned- and wish lists updated, and to obtain 
books from the library to provide missing or garble pages or chapter titles and 
pages, ingredients for recipes--little things that can done be relatively 
quickly. If an of the books I have downloaded  are wanted more immediately, I 
can move them to the front of the pile. At the moment I'm finally working on 
Kind of Blue ;(because of the odd way it's paged (only  every other page is 
numbered and there  are photos interrupting). Also, I have one more book to 
delete end-of-line paragraph paragraphs. Then I should be able to make better 
progress. smile

      Cindy


      Cindy

      Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and 
books-being-scanned list available at sites below



      Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List

      Books Being Scanned List: 
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List


      --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


        From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and Robert
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:26 PM





        Gwen, you're right. Robert
        is an experienced and
        valuable member of our community. Robert, how many books do
        you have that are
        waiting to be approved? Are they on step 1 or in the admin
        queue?


        Gwen, there are several factors
        in play regarding
        Robert's books. I don't know if you're aware of
        all of these, so I thought I'd
        share them. Some of them can probably be addressed by
        people on this list.
        Others can't.

        On the staff side, Carrie was
        on vacation for a week
        before Thanksgiving. Also, most of the staff had some time
        off last week for the
        holiday. I have found that she generally approves books
        from volunteers within
        24 to 48 hours of their entry into the admin queue. Carrie
        used to be a
        volunteer just like us, and she remembers the frustration
        of waiting and waiting
        for a book to be approved. She has worked with Robert as a
        fellow volunteer as
        well and knows of his skills and flexible
        attitude.

        From here, it looks like the
        bottleneck right now is in
        getting books proofread. The number of books on step 1 is
        piling up again. Our
        number of active volunteers and their preferences for
        reading determine how fast
        a book is processed. This factor affects everyone who
        submits books. For awhile
        everyone was worried about not having any books to work on.
        Some people quit
        looking for new books on step 1 because of all of the books
        with holds on them.
        Now there are a lot of excellent books needing a
        proofreader.

        The other factor, on a more
        personal level, is hard for
        me to explain. Robert is a consistent and dedicated
        volunteer. I respect him for
        his dedication and teamwork. Yet I am hesitant to take his
        books for a personal
        reason. In the past, Robert has been willing to scan some
        adult-rated content
        for Bookshare. It's my perception that much of what he
        scans would be classified
        as steamy romances. I prefer not to read the steamier
        books. This isn't about
        Robert or his skills as a submitter. It's about me and
        what I want to read. I
        generally don't like to draw attention to this issue
        since I think it's a
        personal one on my part. Since I feel uncomfortable
        asking Robert which
        books are adult, I let others take his books when he
        submits. I figured it would
        make him angry if I asked about it. If I am wrong about
        what Robert submits, I
        apologize and take full responsibility for not checking out
        my assumptions with
        him.

        I
        think what I'm saying is that we might do a better job
        of communicating with
        each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't know
        that Robert's books weren't
        getting added to the collection. I also assumed that most
        people are more
        comfortable with adult content than I am and that those
        would be done quickly. I
        could be wrong on both counts.

        The last thing I want is for you or Robert
        to feel ignored or
        unappreciated. I don't have an immediate solution. I
        think we could find ways to
        work this out together, with the help of the Bookshare
        community. It would help
        us fix the problem if we know exactly what's going on,
        if the books are on step
        1, or are they getting lost in the admin
        queue.

        Monica
        Willyard
        "The best way to
        predict the future is to create it." -- Peter
        Drucker





        At 10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:

        I think a timely
          manner is the key.
        And those who have scanned for years and their books are
          good, and everyone knows they are good, to me there
        shouldn't be a
          delay.
        Some books get up there right away, so what is the
        difference
          in books?
         Especially those of like  Robert's when his
        books have
          been tried and true for a long time.
         Eventually
          volunteers  are gonna quit submitting books, because
        they aren't getting
          anywhere. Some books stay up there for a long time.
        It's grand
          for   kids books grand for grants, but I think
        they are forgetting
          the  submitters  especially those hard working
        ones like Bob who
          turns in a quality scan each and every time not like his
        wife who turns no
          quality scans LOL.
        I understand me, but Bob that is different.
        His
          should go right away.
        Gwen



            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: robert tweedy


            To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



            Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:58 AM

            Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
        concern these
            days?


            That's fine as long as our books
        get into the system on a
            timey matter.


              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Denise Thompson

              To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



              Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:50 PM

              Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
        concern these
              days?


              I think BKS's concern is to do books that fit
        their grant money.
              educational which seems to be most books for kids and
        teens in addition to
              text books, of course. Adult books don't seem to
        be educational-
              especially those that have some romance in them.
        Since they have
              out-sourcers and do their grant books with them as
        well as in house, I
              feel like I need to continue to scan adult books for
        the rest of us who
              aren't students and who don't want to read
        kids books and teen books.

              Denise




              At 09:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:


                I've noticed a strong emphasis on
        children's books as well. This is
                wonderful, so long as it isn't at the expense
        of books for us adults,
                too.


                Melissa



                robert tweedy wrote:


                  I am just wondering about bookshare policy of
        submitted books.
                  Taking a look at the cue, it looks like
        children's books which is okay
                  but what about books that are just for
        pleasure.
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