[bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert
- From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:37:38 -0600
Right. I am just concerned that the submitter and reader get the credit in a
timely matter. After all one book that I did was lost but I could resubmit it
if need be but don't know what happened to the original.
----- Original Message -----
From: Denise Thompson
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:08 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert
In your example are you talking about submitting for proofing and someone
picked it up right away, but you still haven't heard anything?
At 05:58 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
The proofreaders are doing a good job. It is after they get into the cue
that hurts both submitters and proofreaders. Let me just give an example and
nobody and I repeat nobody takes this wrong. A Dream To Follow was submitted
Saturday. I was checking the cue to see if there where any good books that I
might see in a few days and behold it was in the cue but that evening it was
gone but not back to the check out page or rejection cue. Give the staff time
though, it is just after the holidays but on the other hand I was the one that
submitted Going Overboard and it was in the collection a day or two later. Just
an example how things move. That is why I am confused about what is accepted or
not.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:18 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert
Unfortunately, I'm slowing up the process. I have 4 books currently in my
pile to proof, one of which I've had for ages--but I keep interrupting the
proofing to keep the books-being-scanned- and wish lists updated, and to obtain
books from the library to provide missing or garble pages or chapter titles and
pages, ingredients for recipes--little things that can done be relatively
quickly. If an of the books I have downloaded are wanted more immediately, I
can move them to the front of the pile. At the moment I'm finally working on
Kind of Blue ;(because of the odd way it's paged (only every other page is
numbered and there are photos interrupting). Also, I have one more book to
delete end-of-line paragraph paragraphs. Then I should be able to make better
progress. smile
Cindy
Cindy
Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and
books-being-scanned list available at sites below
Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
Books Being Scanned List:
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and Robert
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:26 PM
Gwen, you're right. Robert
is an experienced and
valuable member of our community. Robert, how many books do
you have that are
waiting to be approved? Are they on step 1 or in the admin
queue?
Gwen, there are several factors
in play regarding
Robert's books. I don't know if you're aware of
all of these, so I thought I'd
share them. Some of them can probably be addressed by
people on this list.
Others can't.
On the staff side, Carrie was
on vacation for a week
before Thanksgiving. Also, most of the staff had some time
off last week for the
holiday. I have found that she generally approves books
from volunteers within
24 to 48 hours of their entry into the admin queue. Carrie
used to be a
volunteer just like us, and she remembers the frustration
of waiting and waiting
for a book to be approved. She has worked with Robert as a
fellow volunteer as
well and knows of his skills and flexible
attitude.
From here, it looks like the
bottleneck right now is in
getting books proofread. The number of books on step 1 is
piling up again. Our
number of active volunteers and their preferences for
reading determine how fast
a book is processed. This factor affects everyone who
submits books. For awhile
everyone was worried about not having any books to work on.
Some people quit
looking for new books on step 1 because of all of the books
with holds on them.
Now there are a lot of excellent books needing a
proofreader.
The other factor, on a more
personal level, is hard for
me to explain. Robert is a consistent and dedicated
volunteer. I respect him for
his dedication and teamwork. Yet I am hesitant to take his
books for a personal
reason. In the past, Robert has been willing to scan some
adult-rated content
for Bookshare. It's my perception that much of what he
scans would be classified
as steamy romances. I prefer not to read the steamier
books. This isn't about
Robert or his skills as a submitter. It's about me and
what I want to read. I
generally don't like to draw attention to this issue
since I think it's a
personal one on my part. Since I feel uncomfortable
asking Robert which
books are adult, I let others take his books when he
submits. I figured it would
make him angry if I asked about it. If I am wrong about
what Robert submits, I
apologize and take full responsibility for not checking out
my assumptions with
him.
I
think what I'm saying is that we might do a better job
of communicating with
each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't know
that Robert's books weren't
getting added to the collection. I also assumed that most
people are more
comfortable with adult content than I am and that those
would be done quickly. I
could be wrong on both counts.
The last thing I want is for you or Robert
to feel ignored or
unappreciated. I don't have an immediate solution. I
think we could find ways to
work this out together, with the help of the Bookshare
community. It would help
us fix the problem if we know exactly what's going on,
if the books are on step
1, or are they getting lost in the admin
queue.
Monica
Willyard
"The best way to
predict the future is to create it." -- Peter
Drucker
At 10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
I think a timely
manner is the key.
And those who have scanned for years and their books are
good, and everyone knows they are good, to me there
shouldn't be a
delay.
Some books get up there right away, so what is the
difference
in books?
Especially those of like Robert's when his
books have
been tried and true for a long time.
Eventually
volunteers are gonna quit submitting books, because
they aren't getting
anywhere. Some books stay up there for a long time.
It's grand
for kids books grand for grants, but I think
they are forgetting
the submitters especially those hard working
ones like Bob who
turns in a quality scan each and every time not like his
wife who turns no
quality scans LOL.
I understand me, but Bob that is different.
His
should go right away.
Gwen
----- Original Message -----
From: robert tweedy
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
concern these
days?
That's fine as long as our books
get into the system on a
timey matter.
----- Original Message -----
From: Denise Thompson
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
concern these
days?
I think BKS's concern is to do books that fit
their grant money.
educational which seems to be most books for kids and
teens in addition to
text books, of course. Adult books don't seem to
be educational-
especially those that have some romance in them.
Since they have
out-sourcers and do their grant books with them as
well as in house, I
feel like I need to continue to scan adult books for
the rest of us who
aren't students and who don't want to read
kids books and teen books.
Denise
At 09:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
I've noticed a strong emphasis on
children's books as well. This is
wonderful, so long as it isn't at the expense
of books for us adults,
too.
Melissa
robert tweedy wrote:
I am just wondering about bookshare policy of
submitted books.
Taking a look at the cue, it looks like
children's books which is okay
but what about books that are just for
pleasure.
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