[bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert

  • From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:11 -0800

Hi Robert,

The book, "A Dream To Follow" is out for proofreading right now.

Mayrie

 

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of robert tweedy
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:59 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert

The proofreaders are doing a good job. It is after they get into the cue
that hurts both submitters and proofreaders. Let me just give an example and
nobody and I repeat nobody takes this wrong. A Dream To Follow was submitted
Saturday. I was checking the cue to see if there where any good books that I
might see in a few days and behold it was in the cue but that evening it was
gone but not back to the check out page or rejection cue. Give the staff
time though, it is just after the holidays but on the other hand I was the
one that submitted Going Overboard and it was in the collection a day or two
later. Just an example how things move. That is why I am confused about what
is accepted or not.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:18 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and Robert


> Unfortunately, I'm slowing up the process. I have 4 books currently in 
> my pile to proof, one of which I've had for ages--but I keep 
> interrupting the proofing to keep the books-being-scanned- and wish 
> lists updated, and to obtain books from the library to provide missing 
> or garble pages or chapter titles and pages, ingredients for 
> recipes--little things that can done be relatively quickly. If an of 
> the books I have downloaded  are wanted more immediately, I can move 
> them to the front of the pile. At the moment I'm finally working on 
> Kind of Blue ;(because of the odd way it's paged (only  every other 
> page is numbered and there  are photos interrupting). Also, I have one 
> more book to delete end-of-line paragraph paragraphs. Then I should be 
> able to make better progress. smile
>
> Cindy
>
>
> Cindy
>
> Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and 
> books-being-scanned list available at sites below
>
>
>
> Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
>
> Books Being Scanned List: 
> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and Robert
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:26 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gwen, you're right. Robert
>> is an experienced and
>> valuable member of our community. Robert, how many books do you have 
>> that are waiting to be approved? Are they on step 1 or in the admin 
>> queue?
>>
>>
>> Gwen, there are several factors
>> in play regarding
>> Robert's books. I don't know if you're aware of all of these, so I 
>> thought I'd share them. Some of them can probably be addressed by 
>> people on this list.
>> Others can't.
>>
>> On the staff side, Carrie was
>> on vacation for a week
>> before Thanksgiving. Also, most of the staff had some time off last 
>> week for the holiday. I have found that she generally approves books 
>> from volunteers within
>> 24 to 48 hours of their entry into the admin queue. Carrie used to be 
>> a volunteer just like us, and she remembers the frustration of 
>> waiting and waiting for a book to be approved. She has worked with 
>> Robert as a fellow volunteer as well and knows of his skills and 
>> flexible attitude.
>>
>> From here, it looks like the
>> bottleneck right now is in
>> getting books proofread. The number of books on step 1 is piling up 
>> again. Our number of active volunteers and their preferences for 
>> reading determine how fast a book is processed. This factor affects 
>> everyone who submits books. For awhile everyone was worried about not 
>> having any books to work on.
>> Some people quit
>> looking for new books on step 1 because of all of the books with 
>> holds on them.
>> Now there are a lot of excellent books needing a proofreader.
>>
>> The other factor, on a more
>> personal level, is hard for
>> me to explain. Robert is a consistent and dedicated volunteer. I 
>> respect him for his dedication and teamwork. Yet I am hesitant to 
>> take his books for a personal reason. In the past, Robert has been 
>> willing to scan some adult-rated content for Bookshare. It's my 
>> perception that much of what he scans would be classified as steamy 
>> romances. I prefer not to read the steamier books. This isn't about 
>> Robert or his skills as a submitter. It's about me and what I want to 
>> read. I generally don't like to draw attention to this issue since I 
>> think it's a personal one on my part. Since I feel uncomfortable 
>> asking Robert which books are adult, I let others take his books when 
>> he submits. I figured it would make him angry if I asked about it. If 
>> I am wrong about what Robert submits, I apologize and take full 
>> responsibility for not checking out my assumptions with him.
>>
>> I
>> think what I'm saying is that we might do a better job of 
>> communicating with each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't 
>> know that Robert's books weren't getting added to the collection. I 
>> also assumed that most people are more comfortable with adult content 
>> than I am and that those would be done quickly. I could be wrong on 
>> both counts.
>>
>> The last thing I want is for you or Robert to feel ignored or 
>> unappreciated. I don't have an immediate solution. I think we could 
>> find ways to work this out together, with the help of the Bookshare 
>> community. It would help us fix the problem if we know exactly what's 
>> going on, if the books are on step 1, or are they getting lost in the 
>> admin queue.
>>
>> Monica
>> Willyard
>> "The best way to
>> predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
>>
>> I think a timely
>>   manner is the key.
>> And those who have scanned for years and their books are
>>   good, and everyone knows they are good, to me there
>> shouldn't be a
>>   delay.
>> Some books get up there right away, so what is the
>> difference
>>   in books?
>>  Especially those of like  Robert's when his
>> books have
>>   been tried and true for a long time.
>>  Eventually
>>   volunteers  are gonna quit submitting books, because
>> they aren't getting
>>   anywhere. Some books stay up there for a long time.
>> It's grand
>>   for   kids books grand for grants, but I think
>> they are forgetting
>>   the  submitters  especially those hard working
>> ones like Bob who
>>   turns in a quality scan each and every time not like his
>> wife who turns no
>>   quality scans LOL.
>> I understand me, but Bob that is different.
>> His
>>   should go right away.
>> Gwen
>>
>>
>>
>>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>>     From: robert tweedy
>>
>>
>>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>     Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:58 AM
>>
>>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
>> concern these
>>     days?
>>
>>
>>     That's fine as long as our books
>> get into the system on a
>>     timey matter.
>>
>>
>>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>>       From: Denise Thompson
>>
>>       To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>       Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:50 PM
>>
>>       Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
>> concern these
>>       days?
>>
>>
>>       I think BKS's concern is to do books that fit
>> their grant money.
>>       educational which seems to be most books for kids and
>> teens in addition to
>>       text books, of course. Adult books don't seem to
>> be educational-
>>       especially those that have some romance in them.
>> Since they have
>>       out-sourcers and do their grant books with them as
>> well as in house, I
>>       feel like I need to continue to scan adult books for
>> the rest of us who
>>       aren't students and who don't want to read
>> kids books and teen books.
>>
>>       Denise
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>       At 09:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>         I've noticed a strong emphasis on
>> children's books as well. This is
>>         wonderful, so long as it isn't at the expense
>> of books for us adults,
>>         too.
>>
>>
>>         Melissa
>>
>>
>>
>>         robert tweedy wrote:
>>
>>
>>           I am just wondering about bookshare policy of
>> submitted books.
>>           Taking a look at the cue, it looks like
>> children's books which is okay
>>           but what about books that are just for
>> pleasure.
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