[bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:55:29 -0800 (PST)
That was problem I had with the Shadow, and I could find no way of globally
deleting soft breaks; I had forgotten to delete each one as I added the hard
break; and every time I closed the saved file and reopened it I was taken a
totally different page. Someone had suggested that I proof and save several
pages at a time in separate files and put them together when ready to upload.
Would that I had taken her advice!
Cindy
>________________________________
> From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:49 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>
>You are interpreting this correctly, Valerie. In the last book I did, when I
>was on page 1 of the core text, because of the preliminary pages, Word said I
>was on page 14, which was okay. But as I progressed through the book, Word
>kept increasing the difference. When I go to page 250, Word should have said
>page 264, but instead, it said page 300. But you can see that if I lessened
>the difference, by adjusting the page count, without the hard page break
>announcement showing on my display,I might be eliminating some protected hard
>page breaks.
>
>At first, when I got Office 2010, it was okay. I mean, Word kept an accurate
>page count. But on the last book I did, and on the one I am doing now, Word
>is adding to the page count. (big siigh)
>
>Thanks for your concern, Valerie!
>
>Sue S.
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Valerie Maples
>Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:16 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>
>Thanks for the explanation, Sue. So, if I am interpreting correctly, you only
>know it is a protected page break, and thus a hard page break, if you arrow,
>not
>just by Word page count. I guess the only thing that can help is to compare
>the
>books number 1 page to the Word page count and know the difference between the
>two (I would have to make a note at that point, or I would forget, Grin), and
>as
>soon as that difference changes, see if I find a protected page break (again,
>only if the person who scanned protects them), and if not, if the next page is
>a
>consecutive numbered page, adjust the difference number and know it had to be a
>soft page break. Not fun, for sure!
>
>I sure would be after whoever removed the announce-ability of hard page breaks
>to restore that functionality. Out of curiosity, are you using the full Office
>2010 or Starter? I actually prefer starter for reduced clutter ...
>Valerie
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>> From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 5:05:43 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>>
>> Oh no, Valerie, we don't mean that. We can see blank lines by using the
>> arrow keys. It is very hard to explain. It could be that I shouldn't pay
>> any attention to Word's page count, and just go by the page numbers in the
>> scan, even if pages are added in Word.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Maples
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:45 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>>
>> Are you saying when a person reads with a Braille Display there is now way
>> to
>> see a blank line?
>> Valerie
>>
>>
>> Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> > From: Susan Lumpkin <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 2:57:02 PM
>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> >
>> > Unfortunatley, for some unknown reason, it doesn't work that way on the
>> > braille
>> >display, Valerie!
>> >
>> >
>> > Susan
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ; On Behalf Of Valerie >Maples
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:38 PM
>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> >
>> > Hey, Sue S;
>> >
>> > This would be a kludge, but if the person who scans for you protects
>> > their
>> >hard page breaks with a blank line before and after (I do that before
>> >sending
>> >out my scans), then you would be able to know it is a hard page break
>> >instead
>> >of a soft one if you have all punctuation turned on. At least I think
>> >this
>> >would work. I am not blind, so maybe others can chime in...
>> > Valerie
>> >
>> >
>> > Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
>> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----
>> > > From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 1:55:22 PM
>> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> > >
>> > > (smile) Thanks for your encouragement, Susan. I do enjoy > >
>> > >proofing,
>> > >but need to know when I have a soft page break or hard page break. In
>> > >earlier versions, nothing was displayed if there was a soft page
>> > >break, but I sawthe words page break if there was a hard page break.
>> > >
>> > > Sue S.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message----- From: Susan Lumpkin
>> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:29 PM
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> > >
>> > > Well, Sue, we think it's important and don't quite understand why
>> > >JAWS no longer will enable you to do it! Please don't abandon >
>> > >>proofing
>> >though!
>> > >
>> > > Susan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ; On Behalf Of Sue >
>> >Stevens
>> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:23 PM
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> > >
>> > > Thanks, Debby. I junked by Word 2002 because it wouldn't work on
>> > >this computer. Larry Lumpkin is working on this, contacting Freedom
>> > >Scientific, so maybe they will work something out. If they do come >
>> > >>up
>> > >with a solution, Larry will let me know what to do. It is really >
>> > >>kind
>> > >of him to try to get this solved.
>> > >
>> > > Sue S.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Debby Franson
>> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:16 AM
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> > >
>> > > Hi Sue!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for posting. How thoughtless on Freedom Scientific's part. >
>> > > > I
>> > >don't see their logic in removing such an important feature. I hope
>> > >you have an earlier version of Word to go back to or can upgrade JAWS
>> > >to maybe have that feature back.
>> > >
>> > > Debby
>> > >
>> > > At 04:53 AM 2/11/2012, Sue Stevens wrote
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > In reference to my question the other day about how to get Jaws > >
>> > > > > to
>> > > > display the words “page break†on my Braille display, I found
>> > > > out from Freedom Scientific tech support that Jaws 12 will not
>> > > > display those words in Braille in Word 2010. I thank all of you
>> > > > who were concerned about this,and wanted to post this so everyone
>> > > > would know that, unlike in earlier versions of Word and Jaws, this
>> > > > feature has been
>> > >removed.
>> > > >
>> > > > Sue S.
>> > >
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