[bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
- From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:16:06 -0800 (PST)
Thanks for the explanation, Sue. So, if I am interpreting correctly, you only
know it is a protected page break, and thus a hard page break, if you arrow,
not
just by Word page count. I guess the only thing that can help is to compare
the
books number 1 page to the Word page count and know the difference between the
two (I would have to make a note at that point, or I would forget, Grin), and
as
soon as that difference changes, see if I find a protected page break (again,
only if the person who scanned protects them), and if not, if the next page is
a
consecutive numbered page, adjust the difference number and know it had to be a
soft page break. Not fun, for sure!
I sure would be after whoever removed the announce-ability of hard page breaks
to restore that functionality. Out of curiosity, are you using the full Office
2010 or Starter? I actually prefer starter for reduced clutter ...
Valerie
----- Original Message ----
> From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 5:05:43 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>
> Oh no, Valerie, we don't mean that. We can see blank lines by using the
> arrow keys. It is very hard to explain. It could be that I shouldn't pay
> any attention to Word's page count, and just go by the page numbers in the
> scan, even if pages are added in Word.
>
> Sue
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valerie Maples
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:45 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>
> Are you saying when a person reads with a Braille Display there is now way
> to
> see a blank line?
> Valerie
>
>
> Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Susan Lumpkin <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 2:57:02 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> >
> > Unfortunatley, for some unknown reason, it doesn't work that way on the
> > braille
> >display, Valerie!
> >
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:38 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> >
> > Hey, Sue S;
> >
> > This would be a kludge, but if the person who scans for you protects
> > their
> >hard page breaks with a blank line before and after (I do that before
> >sending
> >out my scans), then you would be able to know it is a hard page break
> >instead
> >of a soft one if you have all punctuation turned on. At least I think
> >this
> >would work. I am not blind, so maybe others can chime in...
> > Valerie
> >
> >
> > Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 1:55:22 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> > >
> > > (smile) Thanks for your encouragement, Susan. I do enjoy proofing,
> > >but need to know when I have a soft page break or hard page break. In
> > >earlier versions, nothing was displayed if there was a soft page
> > >break, but I sawthe words page break if there was a hard page break.
> > >
> > > Sue S.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- From: Susan Lumpkin
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:29 PM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> > >
> > > Well, Sue, we think it's important and don't quite understand why
> > >JAWS no longer will enable you to do it! Please don't abandon proofing
> >though!
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:23 PM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> > >
> > > Thanks, Debby. I junked by Word 2002 because it wouldn't work on
> > >this computer. Larry Lumpkin is working on this, contacting Freedom
> > >Scientific, so maybe they will work something out. If they do come up
> > >with a solution, Larry will let me know what to do. It is really kind
> > >of him to try to get this solved.
> > >
> > > Sue S.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Debby Franson
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:16 AM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> > >
> > > Hi Sue!
> > >
> > > Thanks for posting. How thoughtless on Freedom Scientific's part. I
> > >don't see their logic in removing such an important feature. I hope
> > >you have an earlier version of Word to go back to or can upgrade JAWS
> > >to maybe have that feature back.
> > >
> > > Debby
> > >
> > > At 04:53 AM 2/11/2012, Sue Stevens wrote
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > In reference to my question the other day about how to get Jaws to
> > > > display the words “page break†on my Braille display, I found
> > > > out from Freedom Scientific tech support that Jaws 12 will not
> > > > display those words in Braille in Word 2010. I thank all of you
> > > > who were concerned about this,and wanted to post this so everyone
> > > > would know that, unlike in earlier versions of Word and Jaws, this
> > > > feature has been
> > >removed.
> > > >
> > > > Sue S.
> > >
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