[bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question

I don't know if what I'm about to say is relevant, but I always do a final 
pagination check after I've finished, whether proofing, as I do now, or before 
when I scanned. I found that at times I got so inolved in reading that either I 
forgot to number a page or I numbered 2 pages the same or I had misnumbered a 
page.
Cindy




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> From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:16 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> 
>Thanks for the explanation, Sue.  So, if I am interpreting correctly, you only 
>know it is a protected page break, and thus a hard page break, if you arrow, 
>not 
>just by Word page count.  I guess the only thing that can help is to compare 
>the 
>books number 1 page to the Word page count and know the difference between the 
>two (I would have to make a note at that point, or I would forget, Grin), and 
>as 
>soon as that difference changes, see if I find a protected page break (again, 
>only if the person who scanned protects them), and if not, if the next page is 
>a 
>consecutive numbered page, adjust the difference number and know it had to be 
>a 
>soft page break.  Not fun, for sure!  
>
>I sure would be after whoever removed the announce-ability of hard page breaks 
>to restore that functionality.  Out of curiosity, are you using the full 
>Office 
>2010 or Starter?  I actually prefer starter for reduced clutter ...
>Valerie
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>> From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 5:05:43 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> 
>> Oh no, Valerie, we don't mean that.  We can see blank lines by using the 
>> arrow keys.  It is very hard to explain.  It could be that I  shouldn't pay 
>> any attention to Word's page count, and just go by the page  numbers in the 
>> scan, even if pages are added in  Word.
>> 
>> Sue
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Valerie  Maples
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:45 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> 
>> Are you saying when a  person reads with a Braille Display there is now way 
>> to
>> see a blank  line?
>> Valerie
>> 
>> 
>> Keep up with Nichole's  recovery:
>> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----  Original Message ----
>> > From: Susan Lumpkin <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >  Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 2:57:02 PM
>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:  Braille display question
>> >
>> > Unfortunatley, for some unknown reason,  it doesn't work that way on the 
>> > braille
>> >display,  Valerie!
>> >
>> >
>> > Susan
>> >
>> >
>> >  -----Original  Message-----
>> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ;  On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:38  PM
>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >  Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> >
>> >  Hey, Sue S;
>> >
>> > This  would be a kludge, but if the person who  scans for you protects 
>> > their
>> >hard page  breaks with a blank  line before and after (I do that before 
>> >sending
>> >out my   scans), then you would be able to know it is a hard page break 
>> >instead
>> >of a soft  one if you have all punctuation turned  on.  At least I think 
>> >this
>> >would  work.  I am not  blind, so maybe others can chime in...
>> >    Valerie
>> >
>> >
>> > Keep up with Nichole's  recovery:
>> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  -----  Original Message ----
>> > > From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >  >  Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 1:55:22 PM
>> > > Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re:  Braille display question
>> > >
>> > >  (smile)  Thanks for your  encouragement, Susan.  I do enjoy  proofing,
>> > >but need to know  when I have a soft page break or  hard page break. In
>> > >earlier   versions, nothing was displayed  if there was a soft page
>> > >break, but I  sawthe  words page  break if there was a hard page break.
>> > >
>> > >  Sue   S.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message----- From:  Susan  Lumpkin
>> > > Sent: Saturday,  February 11, 2012 1:29  PM
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >  >  Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> >  >
>> > >  Well, Sue, we think it's  important and don't quite  understand why
>> > >JAWS no longer will enable you to do  it! Please  don't abandon  proofing
>> >though!
>> > >
>> > >  Susan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  -----Original   Message-----
>> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >  >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ;   On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
>> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012  1:23  PM
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >  >  Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> >  >
>> > >  Thanks, Debby.  I  junked by Word 2002 because  it wouldn't work on
>> > >this computer.  Larry  Lumpkin is  working on this, contacting  Freedom
>> > >Scientific, so maybe they  will  work something out.   If they do come up
>> > >with a  solution, Larry will let me  know what to  do.  It is really  kind
>> > >of him to try to get this solved.
>> > >
>> > > Sue  S.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >  >  From: Debby  Franson
>> > > Sent: Saturday, February 11,  2012 11:16  AM
>> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >  >  Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>> >  >
>> > >  Hi Sue!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for   posting.  How thoughtless on  Freedom Scientific's part.   I
>> > >don't see  their logic in  removing such an important  feature.  I hope
>> > >you have an earlier  version of Word to  go back to or can upgrade JAWS
>> > >to maybe have that  feature  back.
>> > >
>> > > Debby
>> > >
>> > > At 04:53 AM  2/11/2012, Sue  Stevens  wrote
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > >  >
>> > > > In reference  to my question the other day   about how to get Jaws to
>> > > >  display the words “page  break†on my Braille  display, I found
>> > >  > out from  Freedom Scientific tech support that Jaws 12  will not
>> > > >  display those words in Braille in Word 2010.  I thank  all  of  you
>> > > > who were concerned about this,and wanted to post   this so everyone
>> > > > would know that, unlike in earlier  versions  of Word and Jaws, this
>> > > > feature has   been
>> > >removed.
>> > > >
>> > > > Sue S.
>> >  >
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