[bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question

Hi Sue, I'm sending this as an attachment. I hope it works for you.
Regards, Kim Friedman.

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:34 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question


Kim, that would be terrific.  You understand what my problem is.  So
send me 
the attachment at:
siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  And thanks for much!!!

Sue S.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Kim Friedman
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:52 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question

Hi, Sue, the one thing which drives me nuts is that increasing page
count thing you mentioned. I really hate that because I think it messes
up accuracy. I once had a problem with a file which suffered from an
increasing page count according to Word. The way it was solved was to go
into paragraph presentation and do some fiddling with the spacing
setting or something. I have the email message and I can send it as an
attachment if you like. Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: Now the solution
happened to work with this particular book I was proofreading. I don't
know if it would work for others and I would hate to make things harder
for you. K.

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:06 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question


Oh no, Valerie, we don't mean that.  We can see blank lines by using the

arrow keys.  It is very hard to explain.  It could be that I shouldn't
pay any attention to Word's page count, and just go by the page numbers
in the scan, even if pages are added in Word.

Sue


-----Original Message----- 
From: Valerie Maples
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:45 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question

Are you saying when a person reads with a Braille Display there is now
way to see a blank line? Valerie


Keep up with Nichole's recovery:
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples



----- Original Message ----
> From: Susan Lumpkin <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 2:57:02 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>
> Unfortunatley, for some unknown reason, it doesn't work that way on 
>the  braille
>display, Valerie!
>
>
> Susan
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On Behalf Of Valerie 
>Maples
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:38 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
>
> Hey, Sue S;
>
> This  would be a kludge, but if the person who scans for you protects

>their hard page  breaks with a blank line before and after (I do that 
>before sending
>out my  scans), then you would be able to know it is a hard page break
>instead
>of a soft  one if you have all punctuation turned on.  At least I think

>this
>would  work.  I am not blind, so maybe others can chime in...
>   Valerie
>
>
> Keep up with Nichole's  recovery: 
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples
>
>
>
> -----  Original Message ----
> > From: Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 1:55:22 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:  Braille display question
> >
> > (smile)  Thanks for your  encouragement, Susan.  I do enjoy 
> >proofing, but need to know  when I have a soft page break or hard
page break. In
> >earlier   versions, nothing was displayed if there was a soft page
> >break, but I  sawthe  words page break if there was a hard page 
> >break.
> >
> >  Sue  S.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Susan  Lumpkin
> > Sent: Saturday,  February 11, 2012 1:29 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> >
> >  Well, Sue, we think it's  important and don't quite understand why 
> >JAWS no longer will enable you to do  it! Please don't abandon 
> >proofing
>though!
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> >  -----Original  Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]   On Behalf Of Sue
Stevens
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:23  PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> >
> >  Thanks, Debby.  I  junked by Word 2002 because it wouldn't work on 
> >this computer.  Larry  Lumpkin is working on this, contacting
Freedom
> >Scientific, so maybe they will  work something out.   If they do come
up
> >with a solution, Larry will let me  know what to  do.  It is really 
> >kind of him to try to get this solved.
> >
> > Sue S.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >  From: Debby  Franson
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:16  AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Subject:  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Braille display question
> >
> >  Hi Sue!
> >
> > Thanks for  posting.  How thoughtless on  Freedom Scientific's part.

> >I don't see  their logic in  removing such an important feature.  I 
> >hope you have an earlier  version of Word to go back to or can 
> >upgrade JAWS to maybe have that  feature back.
> >
> > Debby
> >
> > At 04:53 AM 2/11/2012, Sue  Stevens  wrote
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > In reference  to my question the other day  about how to get Jaws 
> > > to  display the words “page break†on my Braille  display, I 
> > > found
> >  > out from Freedom Scientific tech support that Jaws 12  will not
> > > display those words in Braille in Word 2010.  I thank  all  of you

> > > who were concerned about this,and wanted to post  this so everyone

> > > would know that, unlike in earlier versions  of Word and Jaws, 
> > > this feature has  been
> >removed.
> > >
> > > Sue S.
> >
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From: Rick Costa [rickc@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:00 PM
To: Kim Friedman
Cc: Scott Rains
Subject: A method to always get the correct page count of a file

*  The method assumes the book was scanned correctly, ie the scan contains the correct number of hard page breaks to begin with.

*  To determine the page count of a file, Bookshare counts only hard page breaks. Soft page breaks are not included in the count.

 

This method gives you a count of all the hard page breaks in a file.

 

OVERVIEW

1) We will do a "dummy global replace" in order to get Word to tell us how many replaces it made.

This number will be the page count of the file. Said another way, this will be the number of hard page breaks in the file.

2) Next we will do an "Undo", exactly once. This undoes the global replace we just did.

3) Then we'll do one quick test to make sure the Undo we did, was successful!

 

===

DO A DUMMY GLOBAL REPLACE:  REPLACE ALL HARD PAGE BREAKS WITH A UNIQUE STRING

1. Start at the very beginning of the file by doing the keystroke combination:  Control + Home.

2. Bring up the "Find and Replace" dialog box by doing the keystroke combination:  Control + h.

3. In the "Find what" box, type "^m" (without the quotes).

    This is a caret, followed by a lower case letter 'm'.

4. In the "Replace with" box, type a unique string. We will suggest:  "%%%%" (without the quotes).

    This is four percent signs with no spaces between.

5. In a moment, Word will tell you how many replaces it made. Be ready to remember this number.

6. Do a Replace All with the keystroke combination:  Alt + a. (Or, click "Replace All".)

7. Record or remember the number of replaces Word made. Then click "OK".

8. Be sure to exit the Find and Replace dialog box by either hitting the Escape key, or by clicking "Cancel".

 

DO "UNDO" ONCE, PUTTING BACK ALL THE HARD PAGE BREAKS

9. Do an "Undo" just once. One way is to do the keystroke combination:  Control + z.

     This one Undo will undo the global replace we just did. Now, all the hard page breaks should be back.

 

TEST TO MAKE SURE THE UNDO WORKED

10. Bring up the "Find" dialog box by doing the keystroke combination:  Control + f.

11. In the "Find what" box, type the exact string you used before.

       If you used the suggestion, then type "%%%%" (four percent signs with no spaces between).

12. We are hoping *not* to find this string, indicating that the Undo we did was successful!

       Click "Find Next".

13. If you get "The search item was not found", then we know the Undo we did was successful.

 

 

The file has been returned to the state we want it in, and now we have a correct page count.

 

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