Hi John. I'm not 100% certain of how your printed document needs to
look either, so the following is a bit woolly and speculative.
Do you mean that you want a mixture of page sizes where the shorter
edge of the A3 pages lines up with the longer edge of the A4 pages?
And therefore when printing each sheet double-sided, you want to tell
the printer 'the binding edge for A4 pages is the longer edge but the
binding edge for A3 pages is the shorter edge"?
If so, Suzy's suggestion to rotate the text on the A3 pages might
work. Note that rotating the text on a page by 90 degrees is not the
same as rotating the whole page by 90 degrees. For example, printing
six A4 pages where pages 3 & 4 are landscape and the other four pages
are portrait is, in effect, rotating the whole of pages 3 & 4 by 90
degrees. If there are page headers, they are rotated too.
Instead, you might print all six pages portrait but rotate the text on
page 3/4 by 90 degrees. The pages all flip on the long edge and have
the headers on the short edge except for pages 3/4, which have the
header on the long edge.
Now what happens if pages 3/4 are A3? Can I assume you don't want to
print anything on the back of the A3 sheet, so that only the A4 sheets
are printed double-sided? So if just having a section break changing
the orientation of the A3 insert doesn't give the right result, can
you try keeping the same page orientation but selecting the text on
the A3 page and changing the orientation of the selected text (Page
Layout > Page Setup > Apply to: Selected text)?
I haven't tested this, and realistically it probably has to be done
with your document and printer. But if this makes any sense I hope it
gives you a new angle to experiment with.
Cheers,
--- Stuart
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Subject:atw: Re: Automatic long-edge/short-edge printing at section
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Hi John
I still don’t understand what you mean by the flipping… Do you
mean having a printer just print a mix of portrait and landscape
pages? If your printer isn’t doing this, it might be the printer
you are using is limited, and that it doesn’t have the functionality
you need.
Many people don’t print these days – it’s quite rare that I
provide hard copy tenders now. That might be why you received the
“What the???” response.
I have provided many printed documents with a mis of landscape and
portrait pages, some with a mix of A3 and A4 and I haven’t had to do
anything manual in the collation process. A modern printer just
takes the pages from the correct trays, and the out tray collects
everything in the right order. Xerox printers will handle this kind
of complexity.
If you are trying to apply old mainframe printing rules to modern
documents you might be making the process more complicated than it
needs to be. Let the software do the work, rather than the printer.
Note, usually, if I have a need for a landscape page, like a table,
or large graphic, I now rotate the table or graphic in the portrait
page so the landscape pages have headers and footers consistent with
the portrait pages.
It depends how many pages are in the landscape section of course.
But might reduce the complexity of what you are dealing with.
Kind regards Suzy
SUZY DAVIS
MICROSOFT WORD TEMPLATES, APPS FOR MICROSOFT OFFICE & DOCUMENTATION
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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ON BEHALF OF John Maizels
Re the doublesiding question: this was not a problem in my
mainframe days, but it is now. If all the pages are portrait or
all are landscape, then the printer can be told to do long or short
side flipping respectively.
But because I'm mixing orientations, the only choices seem to be:
* live with the portrait pages flipping incorrectly, or
* split the job in two and print part long-side, and part
short-side, then collate. Every time. BAH.
I can't be the only person who deals with technical documents that
have occasional fold-out pages, surely? And, of course, what I want
to be able to do is hand the file to a client in a way that would
process automagically.
John (who is brushing up on squaredance calls, ready for repeated
do-si-do activity at the inkjet device)
OT: one of the many help files I read this morning related to moving
pages around in Word (in the same way that you might rearrange charts
in powerpoint). I thought page re-arranging would be a reasonable
thing to do, but the general pointed response fell somewhere along the
spectrum of "it doesn't do that" and "what sort of idiot would
want to do that". The former was what I feared, and the latter was
just annoying, but repeated often enough that I wondered if the
responders work in the real world... or if anyone at M$ has ever had
to create a 300 page tender document.
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