This message was posted by Shuffletown Embroidery on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/45.html#000001 I'm getting ready to make a few patches. This is the first time I've made them in volume. The customer is not interested in a merrowed edge so here's what I am going to do: Create design. Add a run-stitch border outline 1 mm inside finished edge; duplicate this run-stitch border (used for placement); add a centered zig-zag outline .40mm inside finished edge and (used for tack-down); then add a 3.5mm satin-stitch border to create the finished edge. I use edge run and double zig-zag underlay under the satin stitch. First hooping: stitch design and first run-stitch border. Stop the machine. Remove design from hoop and cut it out (carefully) using the run-stitch border as a guide. Second hooping: Hoop white wash-away tear-away stabilizer. Stitch second run-stitch border. Remove hoop from the machine and lightly spray the stabilizer with 505 adhesive and allow to dry a bit. Place cut out patch onto the stabilizer using the run-stitch as a guide. Stitch zig-zag (tack-down) border, then the satin stitch border. Remove from hoop and tear away excess stabilizer. You may have to play with the width and placement of all the borders. I will say that it will be challenging to manually cut out the patches and get them perfect, but the objective is to support the satin-stitch border as much as possible with the patch fabric. So it is important to have the edge of the cut-out to be as close to the outer edge of the satin stitch border without poking out beyond the stitching. Be aware that the patch will "shrink" a little when it comes out of the first hooping, so your set-back for your run-stitch may be smaller than you think it should be. But the "placement" run-stitch border shouldn't be any closer to the edge than 1 mm. Good luck. Call me if this is clear as mud and think I can help. Mary Shuffletown Embroidery 704-398-1273 PS: My patches are small, so I plan to do several in a single hooping. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================