Jeff, Thank you. It looks like I'll have to be doing a lot more of them before I invest in the holder, though. Connie Wyvern Productions Painting masterpieces in thread. http://www.wyvernproductions.com At 03:10 PM 11/4/04, you wrote: >Connie, > > I need to be corrected,,, the name holder is made by Fast Frames which >evidently is not Hoop Tech. I get confused. :) It can be viewed on a web >site where I found it at >http://www.embsupplies.com/accessoryselect.asp?Accessory=115&s2=qcw&Image=hoops.jpg&Category=Hoops/Holders. > > Melco has this device in stock. > >Jeff Banks > Melco Embroidery Systems