Rod, Great explanation and learning experience. I did this on a new file and was able to see the changes in the graphic, the stitches tree, and the stitch count. Then I did it on an existing file that has been created and saved on earlier versions of software. Changes have been made and saved in my current version of 6.08.522 Pro+. Reopened the file and did your test (TI of 5, TO of 1). I do not see the changes in the graphic or the stitches tree. I do see a change in the stitch count. Very interesting. Terri Hoover Embroidery Creations -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:39 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Copperplate bold font Steve,Jan, I would not like to venture too far out on a limb without knowing more information, but one guess is that the bobbin thread is not being picked up in the tie-in stitching.........not sure about the tie-off situation.......what type of tie-in, tie-off have you been using?Upper levels of Design Shop allow you to choose what type you would like to use. I like the # 5 for most things, just seems to be more positive. The only time I dislike it, is when I need to shave off lettering and pick out the lock stitching---what a pain. How about other fonts....have you tried another block style font , preferably another Dak one.......to see if the problem is prevalent there also? Dak fonts typically do not have any tie-ins or offs in them and must be added. I just pulled up the letter " I " in Copperplate, zoomed in on it to see the stitching and it did not have a tie-in or off in it. It does have the running stitch start, used as a type of tie-in feature. I then clicked on the letter in the project tree and selected "properties" and then "view", clicked on "view tie-in and tie-offs" and then went back to looking at the stitching when clicking tie-ins and offs ----off and on in the Lock/trim tab. I was able to see both tie-ins and offs being placed in the letter. I was also able to see, when clicking on the Status tab, a change in stitch count. I had set the letter height to be .5" and stitch count was at 63 with no tie-in or tie-off and went to 69 when locks were turned on, using lock type #5. In Properties, in the Column tab, there is a selection box that gives you a choice of "Always" or "Only when necessary" for Lock/Trim. I know you said you were using Design Shop 6.08.027, but what level? Lite,Pro, Pro+? This would make a difference in what options you have at your disposal. and whether or not the Always or Whenever is Necessary may want to be selected. The version I am using to look at this letter was in 6.08.522. Rod Springer Embroidery Cottage Rod & Sharon Springer Melco Amaya Tech & Trainer Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing Boise, ID 83713 208-938-3038 From: "Jan Calahan" <jcalahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Copperplate bold font > That is exactly what I was talking about Steven. I used it on a sweat > shirt the other day. Noticed when I was trimming it, that it just > starting un-raveling...tried running it both ways,with and without > locks, no difference in stitch count. > Is this just a flaw in the font design? I understand why it would do it > when I enlarged the font to about 1" or so, but not at .45-.6 > Any thoughts? > > Jan > Oak Tree Embroidery > Oakley, CA > jcalahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Cohen > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:45 AM > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Copperplate bold font > > > I was looking at this issue and maybe someone can explain this to me. I > have > tried Cooperplate and Melco block as a test. I have a capitol I on my > screen > at .5" and have added and deleted lock in/lock out. It doesn't seem to > matter if lock stitches are on or off but I still get the same number of > > stitches on that letter. 74 stitches for Cooperplate and 67 for Melco > block. > I would think it would be about 6 more stitches (3 for locking in and 3 > for > locking out) but it doesn't. Shouldn't the stitch count change? I have > also > gone to the stitch tab and traced the stitches and see no difference. > Now I > am concered that my stitches never were locking in and out. I have > DesignShop 6.08.027 > > > From: "Jan Calahan" <jcalahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:12:51 -0800 > I am using this font, and have a few questions. I notice that it does > NOT stay locked.any suggestions??? I have tie-in/tie-out checked, am I > missing something??? Help!!! > > > >