accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
- From: "Anthony Tom, Studio" <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:15:41 -0400
yeah neighb.
Anthony D,. Tom
I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to
remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
-----Original Message-----
From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:55 AM
To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
Hi,
I m certainly not sitting in an ivory tower. I'm just being pragmatic. I
was just telling you the facts of economic life. I never said it was fair,
right, or just. As a person who grew up watching my mother working as a
waitress in a diner for less than a livable wage, and then spend 5 days a
week taking care of rich peoples children around the clock, sacrificing time
with her own kids because it was the honest to god best she could do at the
time, I know the value of money. I find it funny that you, a person who
has no idea of my background, or economic status are accusing me of
anything. lol. For all you know, I could be your neighbor. Being
Jamaican, I know very well the relative exchange rates found in the West
Indies thank you very much. But the fact still remains. Owning an iPhone
isn't your god given right. I would like to live in a mansion but you know
what? I can't afford it. I have come to grips with this, and have moved
on. I'm fortunate enough to afford an iPhone, and the ecosystem that comes
with it. If I couldn't, guess what? I would move on. I would find an
alternative I could afford to maintain. So please, spare me your
circumstances. It's a phone. 5 years ago, none of us were using iPhones
and we managed to get by. So I can't make my heart bleed for those who
can't afford to maintain an iPhone. It's not food, shelter, or medicine
after all.
Ricardo Walker
ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Anthony Tom, Studio
<homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> you sit there in your condemnatory ivory tower... you know what 1 US
> dollar costs me? $6.50 Trinidad and tobago. i bought a $15 Itunes card
> that i cannot now use. you know what it costs me? $180 Trinidad and
tobago. yes!!!
> twice the cost. thank god that he placed you wherever you've found
> your fortune. but it is not the well-to-do that comprise this world.
> then again, if there weren't other people in this world than the
> fortunate ones, whose face would you have been able to drag through the
dirt like this?
>
> uttered at the risk of being expelled from the list.
>
> Anthony D,. Tom
> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than
> to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo
> Walker
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:17 PM
> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes. They are. And it effects so few of their customers, they don't
care.
> Because the sad but true fact is, they don't want people with 0
> balances in their checking accounts or maxed out credit cards. And
> like I said earlier, if you can't manage to have $1 in your account, you
have way bigger issues
> than being able to update an app on your phone. So like you said
"welcome
> to the real world."
>
> For the record, is it good customer service? Of course not. But,
> when you buy a premium product, you often have to deal with stuff like
> this. Like someone mentioned earlier, if you can afford to buy a
> sports car, your probably not worrying about the price of gas.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>
> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Anthony Tom, Studio
> <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> so why tell me i can't upgrade programmes i have already bought
>> because i may have run out of money? for crying out loud ... ... ...
>> ... they've already been paid for!!!!! they are forcing you to have
> money!!!
>>
>> Anthony D,. Tom
>> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences,
>> than to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna
>> Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:45 AM
>> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>>
>> Very good point, Ricardo.
>> Donna
>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If this is indeed the case, wouldn't just having $1 on what ever
>>> method of
>> payment your using gain access to all the stuff you said you were
>> being denied access to? If this is so, I don't see how having $1 on
>> a form of payment is unreasonable. I figure if this is your last
>> dollar to your name, you probably have way bigger issues than getting
>> free apps
> for your iPhone.
>>>
>>> JMO.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I
>>>> have
>> fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish
>> college, I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not
>> that much, you are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get
>> my medicine over having money in the account for stupid policies like
this.
>>>> Jewel
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that
>> unreasonable. As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit
>> or debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account. You can get
>> a gift card for $10, that's just not that much money. Once you've
>> done that, you can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps
>> you need to do. I'm sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole
>> ****** life. Right now I'm working a job that I hate, but at least
>> it's a job. If you're on a fixed income, maybe start thinking about
>> how to
> change that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone
>>>>> who is
>> blind has to be on a fixed income.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes.
>>>>>> For
>> example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I
>> should still be able to get free apps, download apps I already
>> purchased but are not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar
appointments.
>> Without money, I have no access to even change the password on the
>> lock screen because the Apple password is essentially broken until
>> their
> or is money available.
>> Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as
>> requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo.
>>>>>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month
>>>>>> and
>> somehow don't qualify for food stamps.
>>>>>> Jewel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm totally confused. How would Apple Know if you have money in
>>>>>>> your
>> bank account or not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a
>>>>>>>> free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if
>>>>>>>> you
>> don't have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you
>> run out of money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password.
>> I I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will
>> join me in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has
>> available funds all the time.
>>>>>>>> Jewel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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