welcome to the real world! it a jungle out there, sometimes i wonder how i keep from going under. remember that song? Anthony D,. Tom I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. -----Original Message----- From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary-Jo Lord Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:45 AM To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money Thanks for summing this up perfectly Ricardo. Also, if people have the resources to afford iPhones and the accompanying data plans, what's another dollar on an account somewhere? -----Original Message----- From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:09 AM To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money Hi, If this is indeed the case, wouldn't just having $1 on what ever method of payment your using gain access to all the stuff you said you were being denied access to? If this is so, I don't see how having $1 on a form of payment is unreasonable. I figure if this is your last dollar to your name, you probably have way bigger issues than getting free apps for your iPhone. JMO. Ricardo Walker ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I have fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish college, I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not that much, you are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get my medicine over having money in the account for stupid policies like this. > Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that unreasonable. As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit or debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account. You can get a gift card for $10, that's just not that much money. Once you've done that, you can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps you need to do. I'm sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole ****** life. Right now I'm working a job that I hate, but at least it's a job. If you're on a fixed income, maybe start thinking about how to change that. >> >> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone who >> is blind has to be on a fixed income. >> Donna >>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes. For example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I should still be able to get free apps, download apps I already purchased but are not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar appointments. Without money, I have no access to even change the password on the lock screen because the Apple password is essentially broken until their or is money available. Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo. >>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month and somehow don't qualify for food stamps. >>> Jewel >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm totally confused. How would Apple Know if you have money in >>>> your bank account or not? >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a >>>>> free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if you don't have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you run out of money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password. I I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will join me in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has available funds all the time. >>>>> Jewel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhoneWith questions, concerns or issues not related >>>>> to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to >>>>> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>>>> betoa221 >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the >>>>> subject line. >>>>> >>>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >>>> >>>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics >>>> discussed on list please email the list admin to >>>> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>>> betoa221 >>>> >>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the >>>> subject line. >>>> >>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >>> PS >>>> they know because your card gets cut off if there is no money >>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics >>> discussed on list please email the list admin to >>> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>> betoa221 >>> >>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >> >> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics >> discussed on list please email the list admin to >> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >> betoa221 >> >> To subscribe to the list send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >> >> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> To adjust your membership options please visit: >> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios > With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed > on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on > skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 > > To subscribe to the list send message to > accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from the list please send message to > accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > To adjust your membership options please visit: > //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. 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