Now now members come one no reason to fight its just a fact of live all companies have to make money one way or another. Apple has done that because there are many free accounts and they realize they aren’t making money off those so they have to find a way to get their money. The same goes for all other companies think about it some give you a free trial maybe 15 days maybe 30 but eventually you have to pay to use the product. The same thing is with apple it has been 5 years of people making free accounts and now well it has come time to pay up. So all we have to do is live with it because like I said before this charge isn’t only targeting the blind community it is going for everyone not just us. Su just take a chill pill and be thankful they let it go this long. On Nov 9, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Josh Gregory <joshkart12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Okay people, keep it civil please, and if you want to fight back and forth > take it off list. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I have >> fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish college, >> I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not that much, you >> are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get my medicine over having >> money in the account for stupid policies like this. >> Jewel >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that >>> unreasonable. As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit or >>> debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account. You can get a gift >>> card for $10, that's just not that much money. Once you've done that, you >>> can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps you need to do. I'm >>> sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole ****** life. Right now I'm >>> working a job that I hate, but at least it's a job. If you're on a fixed >>> income, maybe start thinking about how to change that. >>> >>> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone who is >>> blind has to be on a fixed income. >>> Donna >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes. For >>>> example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I should >>>> still be able to get free apps, download apps I already purchased but are >>>> not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar appointments. Without >>>> money, I have no access to even change the password on the lock screen >>>> because the Apple password is essentially broken until their or is money >>>> available. Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as >>>> requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo. >>>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month and >>>> somehow don't qualify for food stamps. >>>> Jewel >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I’m totally confused. How would Apple Know if you have money in your >>>>> bank account or not? >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a free app, >>>>>> or updating those you already have, it won't work if you don't have a >>>>>> valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you run out of money, >>>>>> you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password. I >>>>>> I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will join me >>>>>> in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has available >>>>>> funds all the time. >>>>>> Jewel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhoneWith questions, concerns or issues not related to the >>>>>> topics discussed on list please email the list >>>>>> admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>>>>> betoa221 >>>>>> >>>>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the >>>>>> subject line. >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>>>>> unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>>>> >>>>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >>>>> >>>>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on >>>>> list please email the list >>>>> admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>>>> betoa221 >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the >>>>> subject line. >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>>>> unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>>> >>>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >>>> PS >>>>> they know because your card gets cut off if there is no money >>>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on >>>> list please email the list >>>> admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>>> betoa221 >>>> >>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the >>>> subject line. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>>> unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>> >>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >>> >>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on >>> list please email the list >>> admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>> betoa221 >>> >>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the >>> subject line. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>> unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on >> list please email the list >> admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >> betoa221 >> >> To subscribe to the list send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the >> subject line. >> >> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> To adjust your membership options please visit: >> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios > With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on > list please email the list > admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: > betoa221 > > To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with subscribe on the > subject line. > > To unsubscribe from the list please send message to > accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > To adjust your membership options please visit: > //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. 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