Does it give you the ability to use caps lock though? That is really helpful with laptop layouts. I think it's just a fiddly process changing all the keys you want to change, but thinking about it, I bet it would only take a few minutes to create a layout for every possible keystroke, not even just the ones asigned by default! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes > Don't know if I'm missing something in this conversation but what's wrong > with defining your > own lap top layout? Could hardly be easier with Window-Eyes which has > probably always been > the easiest of the screen readers to alter keyboard assignments hotkeys. > > From Ray > I can be contacted off-list at: > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf > Of Dave Taylor > Sent: 18 January 2007 8:09PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes > > > Hi, > > I agree about laptop layout. GW need to introduce a layout like the Jaws > laptop one. Actually, Jaws standard works fine with Media Centre, so > therefore I presume with XP Pro, but only for 40 minutes at a time, so > even > more frustrating! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:06 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes > > >> Andy. >> >> I've not seen it but I'm guessing that out of the box Media Centre is the >> same as XP Home and Pro in it's basic functionality. It has alot more >> support for media use, just like XP Pro has more security features and >> things like disk space quoataing. >> >> The latter so you can dictate how much space a user on the system can >> use.. >> >> The reason for needing Jaws Pro is because they have to take the same >> steps >> to get Jaws to hook into the system as they do with XP Pro. >> >> Completely ridiculous. >> >> Your case is a classic one that I'm sure Freedom just shrug and say ah >> well >> too. >> >> That's a great idea about having both machines running and that way you >> can >> avoid the frustrations that drive you to the point of wanting to toss the >> thing out the window by walking away and back to your older one. >> >> I still use Jaws on my laptop because I find Window Eye's laptop layout >> support very very cumbersome. >> >> You can get an external keyboard but that negates portibility IMHO. >> Ôà >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:10 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes >> >> >> Hi Dave. >> >> Already got my WE Tutorials out, for a second time. Perhaps I should be >> a >> bit more patient and do a little each evening. You said that everything >> was >> working fine on your new computer. Is it an XP Home or Media Center >> Dave.. >> I ask because it looks like I'll be moving onto Media Center with my new >> computer. Learning Media Center alongside WindowEyes is a bit >> frightening >> though. >> >> By the way, you wouldn't have the subscription details for the WindowEyes >> List? >> >> Best wishes. >> Andy >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:47 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Well, as I said, I've gone over, well, am in the process of, to window >>> eyes. >>> My impressions are that everything just seems to work with this new >>> computer >>> without much less effort than on other machines. I tried it with Jaws >>> and >>> got the old issue of the ctrl key locking on and nothing I could do >>> about >>> it, which I have been nagging Sight and Sound and FS about for over a >>> year. >>> There is a Jaws keyboard layout if you really want it, but I would learn >>> the >>> new keystrokes and change the ones you don't like. I think the speech is >>> sometimes slightly weird having been used to Jaws but it never seems to >>> crash and it is definitely quicker than Jaws. It'll probably even speed >>> your >>> existing machine up. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Dave >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:16 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes >>> >>> >>>> Hi all. >>>> >>>> Looks like my new computer will be a Windows Media Center. I'll have >>>> to >>>> upgrade to JAWS 8 Professional or WindowEyes 6, in order to access it.. >>>> >>>> What do people think? 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