ah! must be going blind! *smile* kevin (lord L) "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." - will durant email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes Hi Kevin, Had you said no to quick install when you installed Window-Eyes, you would have seen that Eloquence, all languages, is certainly there. You would then have the option of installing each language, by ticking the appropriate box. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kevin and emma Sent: 18 January 2007 21:27 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes hi peter, having used (in the not too distant past) a full version of window eyes, i didn't see eloquence as an option in W.E. this is one of the main reasons i haven't switched away from JFW, as (call me old fashioned if you like) i like eloquence and can't stand the default synthe in w.e kevin (lord L) "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." - will durant email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes You can of course use elloquents or i b m via voice or any sapi4 or sapi5 voices which you might happen to have. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes Hi, Well, as I said, I've gone over, well, am in the process of, to window eyes. My impressions are that everything just seems to work with this new computer without much less effort than on other machines. I tried it with Jaws and got the old issue of the ctrl key locking on and nothing I could do about it, which I have been nagging Sight and Sound and FS about for over a year. There is a Jaws keyboard layout if you really want it, but I would learn the new keystrokes and change the ones you don't like. I think the speech is sometimes slightly weird having been used to Jaws but it never seems to crash and it is definitely quicker than Jaws. It'll probably even speed your existing machine up. Cheers Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Windows Media Center JAWS or WindoEyes > Hi all. > > Looks like my new computer will be a Windows Media Center. I'll have to > upgrade to JAWS 8 Professional or WindowEyes 6, in order to access it. > > What do people think? 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