Hi G, You are right, it's just so frustrating to see commercial venders like Apple do something like this, despite us being a minority market etc and then to have individuals and Blindness organisations (who really should know better) to stamp on the idea without even giving it a fair shot. Because something is not Windows and because something doesn't work like JFW it is immediately decried as bad. News flash - because something doesn't work like the Mac or Unix and because Screen Readers don't work like Voice over doesn't make them immediately bad - it just makes them different. But talking about the IPad, I don't quite see the advantage of having such a device am i missing something? TC James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny On 28 Jan 2010, at 19:39, Gordon Keen wrote: > Hi > > From one satisfied mac user to another, don't let it get to you - really, who > is the loser? :-) > > Tech access suppliers have their living to protect so don't expect > impartiality and for many people, well windows is good enough - just. > > Cheers > > G > > From glorious Devon, England. > On 28 Jan 2010, at 18:47, Lyn & Twinny wrote: > >> Of course all you people that sell screen readers like JFW and WE will never >> give anything else the time of day and would rather criticise. I hate to >> say it but Jfw is a total rip off, especially here in Europe and I am just >> glad that blind people have other alternatives at last such as the mac >> and/or linux. And to those who think that voice over is a trunked version >> of narator, you are totally wrong as this is definitely not the case. Over >> here in France, we are really pushing the mac and a lot of us have already >> switched over. Not only is the mac now fully accessible but Mac OSX runs so >> much faster and smoother than Windows and it is a real pleasure to be able >> to use the full capacity of your computer. I have compared my Windows PC >> and my mac and I definitely know which one is the most efficient. >> >> Take care, >> Lyn & Twinny >> >> *********** >> "One day in your life >> You'll remember the love you found here >> You'll remember me somehow >> Though you don't need me now >> I will stay in your heart >> And when things fall apart >> You'll remember one day..." >> (How can we forget you Michael, a gentle soul like yours will forever live >> on!) >> *********** >> MSN and Email= >> keanemaniac@xxxxxxxxx >> >> skype= >> keanemaniac >> >> You can find me on facebook >> www.facebook.com/Lyn.33.bordeaux. >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq