[access-uk] Re: Apple unveils iPad tablet device
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:15:55 -0000
Hi James,
You are a little behind.
You could buy a Netbook for about 300 quid, and then put NVDA on it for
free, or you could get System Access the Atom edition for 90 pounds. Hardly
expensive, you don't have to buy JFW or even WE.
Though I am a great fan of Window-Eyes, you don't have to pay the earth for
a screen reader nowadays.
Now when you put it into that context, Apple are darned expensive. Everyone
is paying for the screen reader in fact, whether they need it or not
<Smile>.
All the best
Steve
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James & Nash
Sent: Thursday 28 January 2010 13:57
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple unveils iPad tablet device
Hi Tristram,
I think the main thing to remember is that, yes, Apple products do cost
more at the outset, but when you consier taht when you buy a PC you then may
still need to purchase JFW or WE etc for even more money. So depending on
where you are in the world, you could be spending up to and beyond 1000 GBP
just to use a PC. If you bought a MacBook for example - or a Mac Mini, you
would be paying around 750 GBP and could use the computer straight out of
the box. Moreover, you would not be paying for updates to the Screen Reader
unless you wanted to buy the new OS when it is released. Every time Apple
releases an incremental update i.e. 10.6.3, you would get all the benefits
that it offers for VO without paying the 125 USD that FS asks you to pay.
Regarding the E-Book accessibility, I have E Mailed Apple to ask them about
this, and I'l post any response they give me here.
Having said all this though, I don't think that the IPad is something that I
would pay for, but I think the idea of a touch screen using the VO concept
of object navigation is a really good one and gives us as Blind users the
ability to finally understand visual concepts of positoin and placements
etc.
TC
James
On 28 Jan 2010, at 09:31, Tristram Llewellyn wrote:
> The one thing that surprised me about it was the lower price point, I
expected it to sell for more, for most however it is still a tough sell when
you compare against a cheap PC netbook.
>
> There was a lot of speculation and some of it very wild in the run up an
some of that obvious did not live up to the reality. Also, it may have
voiceover but I would think if the iPhone touchscreen presented a challenge
and even bigger screen will be that much harder to manage as well. Also
just because it has VoiceOver there is not guarantee that the eBooks
themselves will be speech accessible.
>
> As usual with Apple the PR volume is very high but without some important
details and we are also talking about a product that won't ship at least for
two or three months and probably longer for Europe. The eBook stuff
probably not until the summer of this year.
>
> I can think of a couple of scenarios where it would be nice to have but at
£500-700 pounds not enough of them.
>
> Regards.
>
> Tristram Llewellyn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of David Russell
> Sent: 28 January 2010 08:42
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple unveils iPad tablet device
>
> It does have voiceover and also an ebook reader.
>
> The fact that ebooks which we can purchase may be readable, and that yet
> another Apple product has voiceover, must be a plus point. If other
> manufacturers pick up on the ebook and voiceover ideas, that makes our
> choices even wider.
>
> Not entirely sure yet whether the ebook feature will be totally accesible,
> but a review by a visually impaired user would be interesting.
>
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> Of Gordon Keen
> Sent: 28 January 2010 08:37
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple unveils iPad tablet device
>
>
> It has voiceover.
>
> Cheers
>
> G
>
> From glorious Devon, England.
> On 27 Jan 2010, at 23:16, Clive Pallett wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Here is news of yet another device from Apple. There is no mention of
> Voiceover installed, so wonder if it will be accessible for us visually
> impaired folk. Read the full story at:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8483654.stm
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Clive Pallett
>>
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