[Wittrs] Re: [C] !!!Re: Re: Metaphysical Versus Mystical

  • From: "void" <rgoteti@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:35:17 -0000

>
> In both worlds, language still bounds the form of life. And in both worlds, 
> it is language is still the focal point. Instead of language wedded to 
> logic, it is now wed to grammar. Once Wittgenstein saw that the aims of 
> language were not what he originally envisioned, the central tenets of the 
> Tractatus had to change, but the mission of it really stayed the same. It is 
> almost as if the Tractatus simply had to be recommissioned. It's the same 
> project. It's the same goal. It just now serves the new instruments (the new 
> understanding).
>
> Indeed, I see many things in the Tractatus that are still alive today. I see 
> conditions of assertability all over the place. And what I fundamentally see 
> as the major error is simply the role that language is thought to play, and 
> the resultant feature that logic had to play to keep language in order. One 
> wants to say: the Tractatus is really a prequel of sorts. It's like what 
> the Hobbit is to Lord of the Rings.          
>
>
> Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq.
> Assistant Professor
> Wright State University
> Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org
> SSRN papers: http://ssrn.com/author=596860
> Discussion Group: http://seanwilson.org/wittgenstein.discussion.html
>
>
>  Supportive theory by SANKARA of Adwaitha philosophy of India
For the means of knowledge to operate, it requires the notion of a doer, and 
the notion of a doer is the result of superimposition on the unattached brain. 
In other words, as soon as one falsely identifies the self as a mind, i.e. an 
agent, or doer, then all fields that operate are in the field of ignorance. 
Science, means of knowledge etc, since they require a distinct doer, are 
therefore bound in the field of ignorance.
 Simply to say that the instinctive behavior of humans in the empirical field 
is due to a series of misconceptions due to non-discrimination between the 
subject and the non-subject, and that humans share this behavior with the rest 
of the animal kingdom. Now humans, apart from their faculty of discrimination, 
must be different somehow, and therefore not subject to ignorance?
In his brief introduction, sankara tells us the reason we cannot attain 
enlightenment. It is because it is in our nature to mix up the real and not 
real and therefore perceive a world of duality with multiple 
knower/doers/subjects and things to be known/done/objects. In particular, we 
falsely confuse the eternal Truth that is our innermost self and is The Witness 
with no role in empirical life, to be acting as an agent. This confusion is 
innate to us, and is a matter of common experience requiring no proof. It is 
beginning less and endless in the sphere of the empirical universe. This 
confusion or superimposition is the basic ignorance that results in this world 
of duality. The world of duality fashioned by ignorance is termed to be 
illusion, as it can only be perceived once this basic superimposition has 
occurred. And all activities include the secular and scientific fall into the 
field of ignorance as they must presuppose a distinct doer. The purpose of the 
philosophy texts is to point out this ignorance as essentially the nature of a 
false mental notion, and remove all misconceptions, to reveal the nature of 
Truth. A thorough understanding of imposition is required as a first step, 
therefore, is vital to understand the texts of philosophy and Wittgenstein in 
particular. It is for this reason that this text is held in such high regard, 
and deserves to be studied by all serious students of philosophy.
Verbatim is super imposed over real for certainty.
Thank you
sekhar



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