Thanks Sean, But the ostensive definition of 'the professional philosopher' would do nicely to Walter too I think. A points at B saying... this is a professional philosopher. We watch and see a long white beard. In the sequence we hear interesting questions from B about language and truth. Then we give him money for showing a piece of his professional capacities. This is the professional part. So? What is a professional politician or greengrocer? We give them money to their display of activities. In the pub I can be a politician but will not get a free beer for my politics. I can sell vegetables from my garden but am not a professional greengrocer. I need to earn a living, support wife and kids, with the tricks that I display and then I am called 'professional'. Can someone be a professional amateur? On 16 April 2012 19:11, Sean Wilson <whoooo26505@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > ... Yes Han. I agree. But that's not the issue we were discussing. You are > quite correct that whether one labels a border case (or anyone) a > "professional philosopher" or not says nothing about the value they > contribute to human thinking, if any. I myself would find no need for the > expression, except, perhaps, in a derogatory context -- or perhaps a purely > administrative (and pedestrian) one. > > But that doesn't get at the issue. The issue I was trying to show Walter > (unsuccessfully, as usual) was that one could observe the term with a sharp > boundary or not. The lesson was hence: what Walter thought was a matter of > "empirical truth," was merely a matter of the sense of the idea he > preferred. Periodically -- about once a year -- I try to see if Walter's > made any progress. > > But I agree with you that the the expression really doesn't do much, > either way. > > Regards and thanks. > > > Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. > Assistant Professor > [spoiler]Wright State University > Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org > SSRN papers: > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=596860 > Wittgenstein Discussion: > http://seanwilson.org/wittgenstein.discussion.html [/spoiler] > > > _______________________________________________ > Wittrs mailing list > Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://undergroundwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/wittrs_undergroundwiki.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://undergroundwiki.org/pipermail/wittrs_undergroundwiki.org/attachments/20120416/b328f8b3/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Wittrs mailing list Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://undergroundwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/wittrs_undergroundwiki.org