CJ, "when too much philosophizing can be just plain too much" A quibble: if we were disputing how to translate Goethe, we would not be so inclined to think of the dispute as "philosophizing". Exegesis and philosophy are different activities. (I've emphasized this point elsewhere in relation to the appropriateness of contentious theses in defending an interpretation as opposed to examining a philosophical puzzle.) "I think the world of you two guys..." Thanks! You too. "but talk about making a 'mountain out of a molehill'." I think Sean acknowledges as much. So do I. "It's clear that the main issue on the part of the trendy new translation is nothing more than..." I am really distrustful of such reductionistic "explanations". I don't want to be too hasty in ascribing motives here. But your suspicions do have some plausibility to me. "a patronizing disregard for their readers, with the translator's assuming that Wittgenstein must be predigested and spoon fed to the MTV generation of dysfunctional readers..." Hey! I resemble that remark! Of course (putting on my cantankerous old man voice), back in my day, MTV actually played music videos. "...who don't know or don't care what 'queer' actually meant before it's cooping by gender politics." Note: the originators of "queer theory", campus speech codes, and the like, were "Baby Boomers", aka filthy hippies, taking inspiration from Marxists like Herbert Marcuse (who also gave hippies the slogan "Make Love, Not War". It took them awhile to understand the other parts of his work.) Of course, if you point out that connection, you'll be accused of McCarthyism. And, more oddly anti-Semitism. Not that they oppose Jew-baiting themselves when it comes to criticizing US foreign policy. (The game is called "Guilt by Association". Thanks for playing.) The best thing to do, if your politics don't fit into a neat category, i.e. if you have a brain, is to keep your head low and your mouth shut. Else, you may find yourself a martyr and cause celebre of the right wing think tanks. Like those asshats give a damn about academic freedom outside of scoring points in the "culture wars": they'd turn every biology department in the country over to the Young Earth Creationists if they thought it was a winning political strategy! Er, where was I? Oh, you can't blame MTV or even the "MTV generation" for this mess. ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/