Thanks... Thank you very much to all of yours. When I started this chain, I wanted to know how much money should I ask for my job, thinking that I was underpaid. Now I know I don't. How I told yours, I earn almost 18k us dollars a year (140000Bs), This money is enough to live very well, go out with my girlfriend twice a week to the best place we can found on this town, pay taxes, private school for my two kids, money for my former wife and something for my mother. Actually, this side of the world is very cheap. I invite all my friends once a month to a bear-barbecue party, and I just need 50us dollars to do it. BUT!!! The company I work for hires two programmers from USA last year, one from California and one from Texas. We spend about 100k us dollar a year on each one.... so, we are being ripped off? Programmers earn more money than IT managers? They are developing some very simple software that I don't have enough time to do. Mauricio Fernández S. IT Manager FDTA - Valles Tel. 591 4 4525160 Fax. 591 4 4115056 mfernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.fdta-valles.org -----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Len Milligan Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:48 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive sender for this address) I make an Ok ish £24500 a year - no benefits (no car/health/life insurance etc) but am not too bothered. I'm also not an IT manager on paper but deal with ALL I.T and make the decisions(a nice way to pay me less) But the jobs great, people are a good laugh and I wouldn't trade for double my money. I'm left to get on with it with not too much stress and not expected to stay all night/weekend when things go wrong! -----Original Message----- From: Leitman, Ken [mailto:ken.leitman@xxxxxxxx] Sent: 11 November 2004 15:51 To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive sender for this address) I make more than anyone has so far put forth on this list. But in the NYC, USA area, a cheap starter house and hour commute away is about $350,000USD ! I don't know how to take a job to be happy when I need to make a lot just to pay the mortgage, kl -----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Beckett Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:34 AM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive sender for this address) Well, really it all boils down to are you happy? 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