[windows2000] Re: NTFS-permissions
- From: David Spanne <werenomads@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:18:30 -0700
I would look into Adobe Acrobat. I believe the newest versions allow for
control that may prevent anything but viewing. I know for sure it can
prevent printing, and cut and paste options.
If not Acrobat, I would bet there is a product out there that would do this.
David Spanne
On 6/14/05, Moby <moby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Sorin Srbu wrote:
>
> >----Original Message----
> >From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Daryl Ehrenheim
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:21 PM
> >To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> >Subject: [windows2000] Re: NTFS-permissions
> >
> >
> >
> >>I don't think that linux and samba will solve your problem either. If
> >>
> >>
> >they
> >
> >
> >>have Read-Only access to the file, they should still be able to save
> >>
> >>
> >it or
> >
> >
> >>copy the file to a new location. I use a Linux server with Samba here
> >>
> >>
> >and I
> >
> >
> >>can control who has access to the folders and files, but I can't stop
> >>
> >>
> >them
> >
> >
> >>from copying the data to another location. Go to the Samba website and
> >>browse through the documentation, that might give you some answers.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Gotcha'. Thx for the hint.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Daryl S. Ehrenheim
> >>Bargreen Ellingson - IT Support
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:13 AM
> >>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: NTFS-permissions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----Original Message----
> >>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tim Mangan
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:03 PM
> >>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: NTFS-permissions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The only thing I know of that works at the NTFS level would be
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >encryption
> >
> >
> >>>>options. But if they can authenticate to the computer then
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>they have
> >>>access
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>- which is probably not what you want.
> >>>>
> >>>>Maybe when WinFS happens...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Yeah, "maybe" is the key word here. 8-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Microsoft is doing work with the office suite that allows the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >document
> >
> >
> >>>>publisher (word, excel, ppt, publisher, etc) to encode permissions
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >that
> >
> >
> >>>>can prevent either printing or saving - however that does not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >prevent file
> >
> >
> >>>>access copying (and is specific to their apps). I seem to remember
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >that
> >
> >
> >>>>Adobe is like that too.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Would anybody know if linux can do this somehow?
> >>>
> >>>I'm thinking maybe setting up a linux server and using samba
> >>>to allow the win-clients access to it, may do the trick.
> >>>According to preliminary data (read as a short talk with the
> >>>linux-admin over here while getting coffee [it's amazing how
> >>>many interesting things and breakthroughs happen while
> >>>getting coffee and/or happen around the coffee machine...]
> >>>8-) samba may offer this service.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>tim
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:11 AM
> >>>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: NTFS-permissions
> >>>>
> >>>>----Original Message----
> >>>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Robert K
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >Coffman
> >
> >
> >>>>Jr - Info From Data Corporation
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:49 PM
> >>>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: NTFS-permissions
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Any other way to do this then?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Of course this can be done. Depends on how much effort you are
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >willing
> >
> >
> >>>>>to make to do this!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>2 ways come to mind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>1. Put hardcopies in a secured room under guard.
> >>>>>2. Create a secure, non-shared place to put these.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>Publish WordView
> >>>(with
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>"open for editing" disabled") in such a manner that it opens the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >document
> >
> >
> >>>>>directly (ie. No browsing.) Only allow access from Thin Client
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >terminals
> >
> >
> >>>>>with no printer access (to avoid use of copy/paste). Oh, and put a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >guard
> >
> >
> >>>>>there too because people have digital cameras these days...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You get the idea. This isn't really a technical problem, it's a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >trust
> >
> >
> >>>>>issue...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>I do. What if the files are not word-docs? I'm looking for a more
> >>>>generalised way to do this, file format-independent if you like. And
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >1)
> >
> >
> >>>>isn't practical.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm just speculating now and checking the options.
> >>>>
> >>>>And I'm still grateful for all pointers and hints you guys care to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >toss
> >
> >
> >>>>me.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >
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> You want them to be able to read but not save the files? Really, I
> would think that is almost impossible. Ability to read woud mean they
> can somehow make out the words, at the most basic level, they can then
> memorize and recreate the documents. That is an exaggerated example,
> but no matter what you do, as long as they can pull the document up on
> their screens, I do not see how you can control it from there on.
> Screen capture software, digital camera photos + ocr, etc come to mind
> even if you could somehow disable the ability to save and/or print.
>
> --
> --Moby
>
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